[Wien] Partial Occupancy/Origin Shift
Xavier.Rocquefelte at cnrs-imn.fr
Xavier.Rocquefelte at cnrs-imn.fr
Sun Feb 27 15:46:38 CET 2005
Dear Travis,
The only way to answer to your question is to have more details about what you
are planning to do (the initial structure and the final one ...). Concerning
the symmetry problem you had, an answer can perhaps be found in the existing
wienlist database. Below, you will find a very clear answer of Peter Blaha
about the symmetry problem in the case of supercell calculations.
Regards,
Xavier
[Wien] Symmetry error in building type P cell
Peter Blaha wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:11:19 +0100 (CET)
You have done almost everythink correct:
supercell does not work with R lattice.
So you created a "supercell" yourself using a primitive cell with three
times as many atoms according to the Cryst.tables.
a) Please specify lattice type H (not P) "hexagonal" lattices get a
special treatment within WIEN and you need to tell the program this by
selecting H
b) Of course, according to symmetry the 3 atoms like
Mn (0,0,0), (2/3,1/3,1/3), (1/3,2/3,2/3)
are "equivalent" (and sgroup therefore wants to reduce the cell to the
smaller R cell). However, as is mentioned in the faqs,... one CANNOT run a
supercell WIOTHOUT "breaking the symmetry".
When you neglect this, dstart will try to find symmetry operations which
transfer these Mn atoms into each other, and of course there is NO such
symmetry operation present.
c) So you must break symmetry. How to do this depends a little on what you
actually want to do with such a supercell, but the easiest is to eg. label
one of the Mn atoms as "Mn1". This tells all WIEN-programs (in particular
nn and sgroup) that these Mn1 atoms are "different" then Mn atoms (eg.
because they should get AF ordered or be replaced by impurities,
vacancies,.....). The setup will no longer make these (and others will
follow automatically) atoms equivalent, but they will be independend atoms
resulting in reduced symmetry.
Another type of symmetry break would be to move one of the atoms slightly
away from the ideal position.
As I said, it depends what you actually want to do.
> Since the supercell program won't run on R lattice, I'm setting up my R
> lattice from a P type structure.
> My material: #166(R-3m),
> Nonequivalent atoms: 3
> Atom positions: O (0,0,0.26), Mn (0,0,0), Li (0,0,0.5) in rhombohedral
> coordinates.
> This structure works well for initialization and scf cycles.
>
> What I did:
> lattice type: P
> angles: 90,90,120
> nonequivalent atoms: 3
> atom positions: O (0,0,0.26), (2/3,1/3,0.26+1/3), (1/3,2/3,0.26+2/3)
> (0,0,0.74), (1/3,2/3,0.74-1/3),
> (2/3,1/3,0.74-2/3)
> Mn (0,0,0), (2/3,1/3,1/3), (1/3,2/3,2/3)
> Li (0,0,0.5), (1/3,2/3, 0.5-1/3), (2/3,1/3,0.5+1/3)
> These are all atoms in the P cell with distance shorter than one lattice
> vector.
> Then I started initialization.
> The x sgroup found the right space group #166, but I still used my
> manually generated .struct file for all the following steps. However,
> problems occured when running x dstart. The dstart.error said:
> 'ROTDEF' - no symmetry operation found.
> 'ROTDEF' - for jatom, index 1 2
> 'ROTDEF' - atomposition of jatom 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.2600000
> 'ROTDEF' - atomposition of index 0.6666667 0.3333333 0.5933333
>
> I carefully checked the atom positions, all were correct and positive.
> Seems Wien2k tends to think oxygen atoms are not all equivalent. But they
> are equivalent. Actually, I tried to separate oxygen into O1 and O2 ( the
> 1st line and the 2nd line). It didn't hel. I have no idea what's
> happening.
>
> Please give your advice.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Shu Miao
>
>
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P.Blaha
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