Tiny mixing parameters? RE: [Wien] Ghost band come from large charge fluctuation

Jorissen Kevin Kevin.Jorissen at ua.ac.be
Thu Mar 10 16:52:43 CET 2005


Thanks (also to Laurence Marks), that's what I felt, too.
 
 
Kevin Jorissen
 
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Van: wien-admin at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at namens Torsten Andersen
Verzonden: do 10-3-2005 13:25
Aan: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Onderwerp: Re: Tiny mixing parameters? RE: [Wien] Ghost band come from large charge fluctuation



Dear Kevin,

not being an expert in "mixer", I nevertheless believe I have understood
the general concept, and I would say that with such a tiny mixing
parameter one will end up (very very slowly) in the nearest LOCAL
minimum and very likely miss the global minimum if local minima exist
between the output of dstart and the "true" ground state.

Best regards,
Torsten.

Jorissen Kevin wrote:
> I would really like to have the specialist's opinion on this (LD Marks?) : is there any sense in using mixing parameters of 10^-6 ?
> 
> Kevin Jorissen
> 
> EMAT - Electron Microscopy for Materials Science   (http://webhost.ua.ac.be/emat/)
> Dept. of Physics
> 
> UA - Universiteit Antwerpen
> Groenenborgerlaan 171
> B-2020 Antwerpen
> Belgium
> 
> tel  +32 3 2653249
> fax + 32 3 2653257
> e-mail kevin.jorissen at ua.ac.be
> 
>
> ________________________________
>
> Van: wien-admin at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at namens liyh
> Verzonden: do 10-3-2005 2:58
> Aan: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
> Onderwerp: Re: [Wien] Ghost band come from large charge fluctuation
>
>
>
> Thanks very much to Marks!
> There are still some problem not resolved.
> As to avoid the large charge fluctuation we set the mixing parameter to 0.000001 and using PRATT
> method, but this can not resolve the problem and we still meet a ghost band in the second iteration.
> these are the charge values from  *.scf file.
>
> 
>

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