[Wien] minimization of positions

Hem Chandra Kandpal kandpal at uni-mainz.de
Tue Jan 3 12:08:15 CET 2006


Dear Sir, 
Thank you for your kind help.
I am going to restart using your suggestions.
regards
hem





On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Peter Blaha wrote:

> How big are the forces for your initial structure ?
> 
> How many geometry steps were performed ?
> 
> grep :ENE *mini
> grep :FOR00x *mini
> 
> If your initial positions are really that bad (and thus the forces are 
> very big), it might be that you need smaller values in case.inM (or that 
> you need to restart by removing case.tmpM). 
> 
> Sometimes atoms want to come closer than allowed with the selected RMTs.
> In these cases you must restart with smaller spheres (Sometimes these 
> messages appear only at an intermediate step, then you can ignore them).
> 
> With a recent WIEN2k version you can use all convergence criteria at once:
>   
> runsp -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.0001 -fc 1 -I -i 60
> 
> 
> > 
> > Dear Wien Users, 
> > 
> > I am trying to optimize the positions of a ternary system.
> > Below I am giving full detail about that system
> > system is 
> > MnCoSn ( a = 4.258 Ang, c = 5.36) (Space group 186)
> > Mn (0 0 1/4)
> > Co (1/3 2/3 0.44=z1)
> > Ge (1/3 2/3 0.06=z2)
> > 
> > To optimize the  z parameters of Co (z1) and Ge (z2) atoms.
> > I am using PORT option as given in the manual.
> > 
> > Let me tell you one thing, my system positions are far away from the
> > solution, because this system is only reported as Ni2In  structure type
> > (space group 194) and I would like to minimize it in LiGaGe structure 
> > type (space group 186). In space group 186 each atom will have their 
> > own positions as given above. These positions I took from other ternary system. 
> > 
> > I follow this procedure 
> > 1. runsp_lapw -ec 0.0001 -i 40 -r 15
> > 2. runsp_lapw -cc 0.001 -i 40 -r 15
> > 3. runsp_lapw -fc 1 -i 40 -r 15
> > 
> > then I Have edited case.inM file like this
> > 
> > PORT 2.0           # PORT/NEWT;  tolf (geom.opt. stops when F<;tolf) 
> > 0.0 0.0 1.0 3.0    # Mn
> > 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0    # Co #PORT: delta1,2,3=precond., 4:Bondorder 
> > 0.0 0.0 1.0 1.0    # Sn
> > 
> > when I start with ---> min -NI -i 4 -s 1 -j 'runsp_lapw -I -i 40 -fc 1.0 '  
> > 
> > It is running and my forces are very far from force criterion and at the 
> > end in my dayfile it writes line like this -->
> > 
> > ##########################dayfile
> > :ENERGY convergence:  0 0 .0000525000000000
> > :CHARGE convergence:  0 0.0000 .0002335
> > 
> > >   stop
> > >   mini        (01:07:58) 0.070u 0.015s 0:00.08 100.0% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
> >  :WARNING, CURVATURE CONDITION FAILED
> >  :WARNING, S.Y WAS -0.304898817526764
> >  :WARNING: Step size reduced due to overlapping spheres -- check RMT
> >  :WARNING: Step size reduced due to overlapping spheres -- check RMT
> > ############################################################
> > 
> > my forces are looking like --->
> > 
> > ###########################################
> > :ENE  : ********** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry =       -34925.629006
> > 
> >        TOTAL FORCE IN mRy/a.u. = |F|     Fx             Fy             Fz
> > :FOR001:   1.ATOM        114.688     0.000     0.000   114.688
> > :FOR002:   2.ATOM        992.576     0.000     0.000   -992.576
> > :FOR003:   3.ATOM       1776.551     0.000     0.000   1776.551
> > 
> > #############################################
> > 
> > Can anyone please explain me, what is the process to do such kind of 
> > minimization, am I doing the right way? and what to do if I see 
> > with iterations, forces are increasing on each atom and vice versa.
> > 
> > What is the criterion for choosing RMT values for such complicated 
> > (I mean without knowing exact positions) systems.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ############################
> > 
> > In the begining, I thought, I am doing some thing wrong with 
> > my calculations. then I tried to check these steps (as given above for 
> > minimization) on a well reported system 
> > 
> > example LiGaGe  (a = 4.175, c = 6.783 Ang) 
> > 	Li (0 0 1/4)
> >         Ga (1/3 2/3 0.06)
> >         Ge (1/3 273 0.44)
> > 
> > and it coverges without any error, in my dayfile 
> > 
> > #############################################
> > >   stop
> > >   mini        (16:09:10) 0.029u 0.009s 0:00.04 50.0%  0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
> > 
> > >   stop forces small, minimization stopped
> > 
> > >   relaxation steps summarized in LiGaGe_opt.scf_mini
> > 
> > >   relaxed structure and results in LiGaGe_opt.struct, scf, clmsum
> > ##############################################
> > 
> > 
> > and in my third optimized scf file :
> > 
> > ############################################# 
> > :ENE  : ********** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry =       -16202.425763
> > 
> >        TOTAL FORCE IN mRy/a.u. = |F|     Fx             Fy             Fz
> > :FOR001:   1.ATOM          1.242          0.000          0.000    1.242
> > :FOR002:   2.ATOM          2.019          0.000          0.000    -2.019
> > :FOR003:   3.ATOM          0.428          0.000          0.000     0.428
> > 
> > ############################################
> > 
> > 
> > If it is working for such stabilized system it should work for 
> > my unrelaxed system. I think somewhere I missing some points.
> > 
> > What would be the good option for such system either PORT 
> > or NEWT. Can I also edit DELTA values (range???) in my 
> > case.inM file with PORT option like Prof. Blaha expalined
> > for NEWT in FAQ of Wien. 
> > 
> > 
> > I will be grateful for your kind reply and help
> > 
> > Thanking you in advance 
> > hem kandpal (mainz)
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> 
> 
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