[Wien] Energy origin

Laurence Marks L-marks at northwestern.edu
Fri Oct 27 21:40:29 CEST 2006


I assume that by "rho" you mean the total charge including the ions,
not just the electrons. In that case there is an issue for a system
with a total nett charge.

On 10/27/06, Laurence Marks <L-marks at northwestern.edu> wrote:
> Slightly confused:
> 1) Integral of rho*c vanishes only if integral of rho vanishes.....?
> 2) What about for a not charge neutral system?
>
> On 10/27/06, John Pask <pask1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > Is this true independent of whether one has a charged or a charge
> > > neutral system?
> >
> > This is true for any neutral system: integral of rho*V equals integral of
> > rho*(V+c) since integral of rho*c vanishes for any constant c.
> >
> > John
> >
> > > On 10/27/06, John Pask <pask1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Laurence,
> > > >
> > > > Whereas the potential is unique only up to an arbitrary constant, the
> > > > total energy (per unit cell) in a periodic solid is well defined -- i.e.,
> > > > no arbitrary constant. (Shifts in the potential cancel out in the Coulomb
> > > > integrals.)
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Laurence Marks wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know of any good sources for understanding exactly what
> > > > > the energy origin is in Wien?
> > > > >
> > > >
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Laurence Marks
Department of Materials Science and Engineering
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2220 N Campus Drive
Northwestern University
Evanston, IL 60208, USA
Tel: (847) 491-3996 Fax: (847) 491-7820
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