[Wien] (no subject)
Santhy Jaiker
k_santhy79 at yahoo.co.in
Mon Jul 27 06:47:33 CEST 2009
Dear Marks,
thanks for immediate reply. i listed below the FGL001 in case.scf_mini and case.scf.
There is a jumb in FGL at last iteration in case.scf. That makes me doubt about my calculation.
FGL001 case.scf
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -11.099558998 -22.199117923 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -11.162490178 -22.324980282 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -11.346664915 -22.693329755 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -12.054496349 -24.108992620 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -13.053889672 -26.107779258 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -12.542934680 -25.085869279 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -11.962697656 -23.925395234 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -12.057383101 -24.114766123 0.000000000 partial forces
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -0.110273902 -0.220547804 0.000000000 total forces
FGL001 case.scf_mini
:FGL001: 1.ATOM 2.994138516 5.988277012 0.000000000 t
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -0.136254664 -0.272509328 0.000000000 t
:FGL001: 1.ATOM -0.110273902 -0.220547804 0.000000000 t
will you explain, "What converges faster, a heavily damped oscillator or a
slightly underdamped one?" this!
Regards
Santhy Jaiker
Research Scholar
Materials Thermodynamics Lab
Department of Metallurgical and Materials Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology Madras
Chennai - 600 036
India
Tel: 91-044-22575763
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--- On Mon, 27/7/09, Laurence Marks <L-marks at northwestern.edu> wrote:
From: Laurence Marks <L-marks at northwestern.edu>
Subject: Re: [Wien] (no subject)
To: "A Mailing list for WIEN2k users" <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 8:55 AM
2009/7/26 Santhy Jaiker <k_santhy79 at yahoo.co.in>:
> Dear all,
>
> i have some few doubts in running minimization.
> 1. i have to come to conclusion about the force from FORxxx or FGLxxx?
> 2. FORxxx or FGLxxx from case.scf_mini or case.scf?
FGL -- they are normally the same
> 3. I got the error "STOP in MINI, FORCES small". I think, it doesn't mean
> error, it is converged. am i right?
Read the output file, case.outputM. If you have setup the problem
badly it may not have converged.
> 4. In faq, mentioned that DELTA was too large (force changed sign !!!,), it
> could even diverge. in my case, FOR001 changed from 5.186 to -0..236.
> DELTA is small, but force
> is changed in sign. how to consider this?
The faq mentioned DELTA only for NEWT, it is ignored for PORT.
There is nothing wrong with forces changing sign, it is to be
expected. What converges faster, a heavily damped oscillator or a
slightly underdamped one?
> 5. There are forces in atom 1 and 3. After minimization, the position
> coordiante are changed.
>
> atom 1: 0.1697 0.3394 0.25
>
Of course!
>
>
> I have to check FORxxx a FGLxxx from laves.scf_mini
>
>
> After running minimization,
> i have to check ENE, GRAD, MIN, WARN, DD from case.outputM and ENE, FORxxx
> from
> case.scf_mini.
>
> In outputM file, ENE is decrease, GRAD is also decreasing and there is no
> warning.
>
> Energy in case.scf_mini
> ENE : ********** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry = -27195.281278
> :ENE : ********** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry = -27195.281764
> :ENE : ********** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry = -27195.281794
> Force in atom 1 obtained from case.scf_mini
> :FOR001: 1.ATOM 5.186 0.000 0.000
> 5.186 t
> :FOR001: 1.ATOM 0.236 0.000 0.000
> -0.236 t
> :FOR001: 1.ATOM 0.191 0.000 0.000
> -0.191 t
> Force in atom 3 obatined from case.scf_mini
> :FOR003: 3.ATOM 3.408 0.000 0.000
> 3.408 t
> :FOR003: 3.ATOM 2.296 0.000 0.000
> 2.296 t
> :FOR003: 3.ATOM 1.253 0.000 0.000
> 1.253 t
>
> FGL001 from case.scf_mini
> :FGL001: 1.ATOM 2.994138516 5.988277012
> 0.000000000 t
> :FGL001: 1.ATOM -0.136254664 -0.272509328
> 0.000000000 t
> :FGL001: 1.ATOM -0.110273902 -0.220547804
> 0.000000000 t
>
> FGL003 from case.scf_mini
> :FGL003: 3.ATOM 0.000000000 0.000000000
> 3.408000000 t
> :FGL003: 3.ATOM 0.000000000 0.000000000
> 2.296000000 t
> :FGL003: 3.ATOM 0.000000000 0.000000000
> 1.253000000 t
> Santhy Jaiker
>
The minimum energy position has no forces. Think about it.
> Research Scholar
> Materials Thermodynamics Lab
> Department of Metallurgical and Materials Engineering
> Indian Institute of Technology Madras
> Chennai - 600 036
> India
> Tel: 91-044-22575763
> **********************************************
> Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve.
>
> Dr. Napoleon Hill
>
> **********************************************
>
>
> --- On Mon, 27/7/09, Bahram Abedi <abedi527 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bahram Abedi <abedi527 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wien] external magnetic field
> To: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac..at
> Date: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 2:38 AM
>
> Dear wien users,
> I'm trying to check the effect of an externally applied magnetic field
> on some simple metals (following the procedure given in section 7.2 of
> the usergiude). The problem is that I don’t see any changes in the
> calculated properties (dos, magnetic moment, etc.) under the field
> application.
> Can you please tell me if this is okey? If not, what is wrong?
>
> Regards,
> Bahram Abedi.
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