[Wien] Slab convergence

Lukasz Plucinski pluto at physics.ucdavis.edu
Mon Sep 13 17:41:00 CEST 2010


  Dear Laurence,

Thank you for the rapid response. Indeed I deleted all files in Wien 
root directory, and started from there.

Now the calculation for bulk Au runs, and the R0 warning is gone, when 
the number is 100 times smaller (it was 0.0001, and now its 0.000001 for 
Au). Also struct editor keeps setting RMT as 2.5, which is too small for 
bulk Au.

The calculation for 20ML Au slab (which has worked before) gets stuck at 
first LAPW2 in SCF cycle -- LAPW1 ends after 1 or 2 minutes, and LAPW2 
keeps running 20 or more minutes, then I kill it (because I assume it 
will never end).

I suspect things are still not properly installed, however, this does 
not explain why bulk Au calculation works fine...

Maybe you could suggest some simple tests I could do ?

Regards,
Lukasz




On 9/13/2010 3:05 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
> Pay attention to the warning about R0 and change this in the struct
> file. (Previously it was possible to run calculations with too large a
> value and not know.) Apart from this it is hard to know and rerunning
> siteconfig is safer.
>
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Plucinski
> <pluto at physics.ucdavis.edu>  wrote:
>>   Hello,
>>
>> I copied newest version of Wien2k (previously I was using version 08). I
>> would really prefer to avoid compiling a new version, thus I just copied
>> (overwritten) the binaries (executables) into the root Wien directory.
>> However, not everything seems to work now...
>>
>> First I tried to calculate bulk Au as a test. Automatic RMT procedure has
>> determined the RMT as 2.5 although it should be around 2.72... I don't
>> understand why but this does not really change much.
>>
>> First warning appears when running lstart:
>>
>> WARNING: R0 for atom    1 Z= 79.00 too big
>>
>> There is no problems with leaking charge:
>>
>>   TOTAL CORE-CHARGE:                   54.000001
>>   TOTAL CORE-CHARGE INSIDE SPHERE:     53.999826
>>   TOTAL CORE-CHARGE OUTSIDE SPHERE:     0.000175
>>
>> Then the rest of initialization goes fine and there is no problem with
>> convergence. I can also calculate the band structure, however, not the
>> option of partial charges. Trying to calculate partial charges gives the
>> following error:
>>
>>    Commandline: x lapw2 -band -qtl -up
>>    Program input is: ""
>> forrtl: severe (256): unformatted I/O to unit open for formatted transfers,
>> uni
>> t 15, file /local/WORK/Au-bulk-no-SO/Au-bulk-no-SO.tmpup
>> Image              PC        Routine            Line        Source
>> lapw2              082CDBED  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              082CD165  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              08288C98  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              08252AFA  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              0825241B  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              08279804  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              080899EE  outp_                     207  outp.f
>> lapw2              0807B3AF  l2main_                  1710  l2main_tmp_.F
>> lapw2              08083AFB  MAIN__                    545  lapw2_tmp_.F
>> lapw2              080482A1  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              082D8E30  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> lapw2              08048161  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>> 0.324u 0.097s 0:00.42 97.6%     0+0k 0+2224io 0pf+0w
>>
>> Doing all this on my Fe1Au20 slab gives the same "WARNING: R0 for atom    1
>> Z= 79.00 too big" warning, and then during SCF run the programs gets stuck
>> on a first LAPW2, it does not give the error, but the LAPW2 continues
>> forever... Thus probably there is something wrong with my LAPW2, or perhaps
>> my Wien2k_10 is not properly installed.
>>
>> I will keep working to solve this, but I am sure your suggestions will help.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lukasz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/12/2010 3:37 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
>>> N.B., of course when you compare to the number of k-points for bulk Au
>>> remember to use the primitive cell volume.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Laurence Marks
>>> <L-marks at northwestern.edu>    wrote:
>>>> Some comments:
>>>>
>>>> 1. 100 k-points for a surface is a lot. What I suggest you do is
>>>> determine how many k-points you need per reciprocal nm^3 (i.e. the
>>>> multiple of the 3 numbers after "div:" in line 1 of case.klist and the
>>>> cell volume) for a bulk calculation then use the same density for a
>>>> surface.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Are you using TETRA? I recommend TEMPS for surfaces with a
>>>> temperature factor of 0.0018 (room temperature).
>>>>
>>>> 3. DO NOT REDUCE THE MIXING FACTOR (better called MIXING GREED) unless
>>>> you understand what you are doing. For old PRATT and BROYD methods
>>>> this was correct, for MSEC1 it is fundamentally wrong. Too large a
>>>> mixing greed (say 0.5) is being too greedy, but the algorithm in fact
>>>> prevents this from happening. To small a greed and the algorithm will
>>>> starve to death.
>>>>
>>>> 4. In 98% of cases where the calculation does not converge this is
>>>> because something is wrong in the physics of the model, i.e. bad
>>>> functional or incorrect structure. Possibly the Fe atom is too far
>>>> from the surface -- have you set FOR in case.in2 and looked at how big
>>>> these are? With care, you can run a minimization with something like
>>>> -fc 4 -ec 0.001 at first, then improve these later.
>>>>
>>>> 5. When you say it is not converging what do you really mean? The
>>>> default -ec 0.0001 is very strict for a surface (with incorrect
>>>> positions), realise that the energy convergence should scale as
>>>> something like the number of atoms (or the square root of this).
>>>>
>>>> 6. Are you using 10.1 and iterative mode? 10.1 is noticeably better
>>>> and I prefer to use -noHinv.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Lukasz Plucinski
>>>> <pluto at physics.ucdavis.edu>    wrote:
>>>>>   Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to calculate 1ML of Fe on top of Au(001).
>>>>>
>>>>> It was no problem to calculate 20ML slab of Au(001), it converged after
>>>>> 37
>>>>> iterations with mixing 0.1, 100k-points and all other standard settings,
>>>>> also using "spin-polarized" calculation mode. I use 50 A of the unit
>>>>> cell
>>>>> dimension, to have appropriate amount of vacuum.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, when I put 1 Fe atom on top of one side of the slab the
>>>>> calculation
>>>>> didn't converge after 100 iterations (I did couple of trials). I also
>>>>> tried
>>>>> to increase the cutoff to -8 Ry, and the calculation is running now,
>>>>> however, no convergence indications after 35 iterations.
>>>>>
>>>>> My slab is not relaxed, and the distance between Fe and Au (3.295 au) is
>>>>> taken from the old publication of  Freeman JMMM 75, 201 (1988).
>>>>>
>>>>> Automatic RMT distance procedure has put all RTM to 2.5, however, this
>>>>> way
>>>>> there is a lot of space between Au atoms. I think its better to use 2.72
>>>>> for
>>>>> Au atoms and 2.34 for Fe atom -- is there any problem with this ?
>>>>> Neither
>>>>> setting helps the convergence...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I could decrease the amount of k-points to have faster iterations
>>>>> with
>>>>> even lower mixing parameter ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Lukasz
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laurence Marks
>>>> Department of Materials Science and Engineering
>>>> MSE Rm 2036 Cook Hall
>>>> 2220 N Campus Drive
>>>> Northwestern University
>>>> Evanston, IL 60208, USA
>>>> Tel: (847) 491-3996 Fax: (847) 491-7820
>>>> email: L-marks at northwestern dot edu
>>>> Web: www.numis.northwestern.edu
>>>> Chair, Commission on Electron Crystallography of IUCR
>>>> www.numis.northwestern.edu/
>>>> Electron crystallography is the branch of science that uses electron
>>>> scattering and imaging to study the structure of matter.
>>>>
>>>
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