[Wien] Fwd: not getting convergence with MBJ potential

pascal boulet pascal.boulet at univ-provence.fr
Mon Dec 12 09:01:37 CET 2011


Dear Dr. Chakrabarti,

All right. So, another idea: could it be that you restarted your m-BJ
calculation using the converged GGA or GGA+U density? I ran into these
kinds of troubles several times. I found it preferable to start from
scratch...

Hope this help,
Pascal

On 12/12/2011 08:45, shamik chakrabarti wrote:
> Dear Dr. Pascal,  
>
>                 As we were getting Ghost band error due to large
> charge fluctuation during initial cycle *we have reduced the mixing
> parameter from 0.2 to 0.15 & hence thereafter we have not received
> ghost band error yet.*
>
> As long as variation of RMT is concerned the variation is only from
> 1.7 to 2.01 in the structure.
>
> So far there is no energy equivalence between a local orbital and
> overall energy parameter which can induce ghost band error.
>
> Also we have achieved convergence of -0.000034 with plain GGA and only
> with MBJ potential we are getting the convergence problem and again
> plain GGA and also GGA+U have not given the proper electronic structure.
>
> As far as the structure is concerned we are very much sure about its
> structural parameters as they are giving the same XRD as experiment
> when the positional coordinates and lattice parameters of the 56 atom
> cell were put into a software powdcell.
>
> looking forwards to your comments.
>
> with regards,
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:26 PM, pascal boulet
> <pascal.boulet at univ-provence.fr
> <mailto:pascal.boulet at univ-provence.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     It is strange that you have such a bad convergence on the energy
>     and the
>     charge after that many cycles.
>     My feeling is that something is wrong in the input.
>
>     Have a look at the user manual. From page 205 on, there is an
>     explanation of the meaning of ghost bands. You have to experiment on
>     your chemical system to get rid of them.
>
>     Pascal
>
>
>     On 12/12/2011 05:21, shamik chakrabarti wrote:
>     > Dear wien2k users,
>     >
>     >                        Any response of my previous mail will be very
>     > helpful for us. Eagerly waiting for your comments.
>     >
>     > with regards,
>     >
>     > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     > From: *shamik chakrabarti* <shamikphy at gmail.com
>     <mailto:shamikphy at gmail.com>
>     > <mailto:shamikphy at gmail.com <mailto:shamikphy at gmail.com>>>
>     > Date: Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:42 PM
>     > Subject: not getting convergence with MBJ potential
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>     >
>     >
>     > Dear wien2k users,
>     >
>     >                        I am trying to simulate electronic
>     structure of
>     > a charge transfer insulator. Our system consists of a unit cell
>     having
>     > 56 atoms and we are using 14 k-points. As GGA+U method was failed to
>     > reproduce the proper band gap (in fact much less than the
>     > experimentally obtained one) we have opted for MBJ potential.
>     > *Initially the mixing parameter was set to 0.2 and we got Ghost band
>     > error after few iterations. Hence we reduce the mixing parameter to
>     > 0.15.* Until now still it has shown no error except some extra
>     message
>     > in case.dayfile. I am giving those messages below. So far e.c. & c.c
>     > were achieved up to 2.239... & 5.4599 respectively and already 36
>     > iterations are over. My questions are:
>     >
>     > (1) Is it ok to set up a mixing parameter of 0.15 that is with
>     it, is
>     > it possible to reach convergence?
>     >
>     > (2) As plain GGA takes around 80 iterations to converge, is it that
>     > MBJ potential will take much higher than that as we know it is
>     always
>     > hard to get convergence with this method?
>     >
>     > (3) what are the meanings of the given messages below:
>     >
>     >   lapw2 -c -up   -vresp (17:12:13) >   lapw1  -c -dn    (16:19:33)
>     > 10848.369u 98.026s 52:39.78 346.4%0+0k 0+1099920io 0pf+0w
>     > >   lapw1  -c -up    (15:26:49) 10864.462u 99.082s 52:44.39
>     346.4%0+0k
>     > 0+1100232io 0pf+0w
>     > 460.324u 151.313s 6:52.62 148.2%0+0k 0+732368io 0pf+0w
>     >  -5.956509016536202E-002
>     >   3.325214690385789E-002 -9.166205529297161E-002 tauwrong=
>     >  int:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho  2.146196813781874E-002
>      1.287982148952303E-002
>     >  -4.564940741427861E-002
>     >   3.061850458947012E-002 -5.357427363703868E-002 tauwrong=
>     >  int:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho  1.778719641126464E-002
>     >  1.317651193616000E-002        *what is tauwrong?*
>     >  -4.561631481999567E-002
>     >   3.051935798833875E-002 -5.372842413400847E-002 tauwrong=
>     >  int:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho  1.783702549056333E-002
>      1.305474408433668E-002
>     >  -2.872847342414767E-002
>     >   2.625149916992486E-002 -2.271097056901070E-002 tauwrong=
>     >  int:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho  1.456340274765583E-002
>      1.183001700580401E-002
>     >  -2.843529510619935E-002
>     >   2.607602777746414E-002 -2.279192386903682E-002 tauwrong=
>     >  int:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho  1.462794826548238E-002
>      1.162089194449066E-002
>     >  -1.211083415464120E-002
>     > ..........................................
>     > ..........................................
>     > >   lapw0 (15:19:56)  sphere:rho,tauw,grho,g2rho   7.46875999972237
>     >      180.956718336004
>     > >   lapw0 -grr (15:15:10) 315.375u 93.253s 4:45.73 143.0%0+0k
>     > 0+................
>     >
>     >
>     > Any response in this regard will be very helpful for us. Thanks in
>     > advance.
>     >
>     > with regards,
>     > --
>     > Shamik Chakrabarti
>     > Senior Research Fellow
>     > Dept. of Physics & Meteorology
>     > Material Processing & Solid State Ionics Lab
>     > IIT Kharagpur
>     > Kharagpur 721302
>     > INDIA
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Shamik Chakrabarti
>     > Senior Research Fellow
>     > Dept. of Physics & Meteorology
>     > Material Processing & Solid State Ionics Lab
>     > IIT Kharagpur
>     > Kharagpur 721302
>     > INDIA
>     >
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University of Aix-Marseille I 
Laboratoire Chimie Provence, UMR 6264
Group of Theoretical Chemistry
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13397 Marseille Cedex 20
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