[Wien] why we need to divide plasma frequency by root(2)?

[Badis Bennecer]

Dear Bhamu

It is useful if one bears in mind that the sp case might be similar to a two component plasma system. In the long wavelength limit the ordinary (optic) plasmon frequency for the spherical case (constant energy surfaces are spheres) is given by w_pl= sqrt(w_p1^2 +w_2^2)

See:

  P.M. Platzman and P.A. 1973, Waves and interactions in solid state plasmas; solid state Phys. Suppl., 13, pp. 1-304, (New York: Academic)

B. Bennacer 1991 PhD thesis, University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK, p. 54.



All the best



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Subject: Re: [Wien] why we need to divide plasma frequency by root(2)?

The optics programm tells about the SP Plasma frequencies:
w_pl = sqrt( w_pl^2(up-spin) + w_pl^2(dn-spin) )

where does this come from
remember the classical approach where the plasma frequency is proportional to root(n) with n being the density of free electrons (number of electrons per Volume)
now what do you have in the SP case ? Shouldn't that be root/n_up+n_dn) ?
The programm however delivers  w_up proportional to root(n_up) and w_dn prop to root(n_dn) and you see where the above equation is comming from

Finally show what happens when the two densities are equal  n_up=n_dn and you see where the root(2) is coming from and when to use it

(Note that the root(2) is here not because of surface plasmons)

Ciao
Gerhard

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Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
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and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden
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Von: Wien [wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Gavin Abo [gsabo at crimson.ua.edu]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2017 00:42
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Betreff: Re: [Wien] why we need to divide plasma frequency by root(2)?

I could be wrong, but I think you just need to take the sqrt(2) of each plasma frequency:

2.074/sqrt(2) 2.074/sqrt(2) 1.264/sqrt(2)

then put them in case.inkram (not case.injoint).

You should be able to use multiple plasma frequencies in case.inkram but don't forget to add a Gamma for drude value for each of the plasma frequencies [ https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg14495.html ].

On 10/21/2017 4:29 PM, Dr. K. C. Bhamu wrote:

---------------------case.injoint
xx
xx
1                                              >> correction
2.0740      2.0740      1.2640
xx
-----------------------------------

were xx means no change in lines of case.inkram.



At page numer  164 under section "8.11 KRAM (Kramers-Kronig transformation) in UG"


"For a metal, the Plasma-frequencies (intraband transitions) for up and dn should be added, but then divided by√2, before using x kram."

Does it mean that we need to add all three components and then divide by root(2) and put a single number [(2.074+2.074+1.264)/root(2)=3.88] instead of all three in case.injoint?


kind regards

Bhamu
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