[Wien] LAPW2: semicore band-ranges too large

Peter Blaha pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Thu Sep 28 14:42:55 CEST 2017


For sure the effective RKmax=2.37 is too small.

You will have to go mpi-parallel.

Otherwise, check your eigenvalues at the different k-points.

With only C,N,H you can identify each eigenvalue and of course the low 
lying eigenvalues should change very little for different k-points ...

On 09/27/2017 08:18 PM, Luis Ogando wrote:
> Dear Prof. Blaha,
>
>    Thank you very much for your help !
>    Do not worry ! I removed only the l=0 lo orbitals for C. The   "
> 0   -0.70      0.002 CONT 1   " lines were preserved.
>    Yes, I used RKmax=3.0 , but it was reduced to  RKM= 2.37  due to
> NMATMAX. Do you believe that this can be related to the "effective"
> RKmax value ? I can increase NMATMAX, recompile LAPW1 and try again, but
> I would like your opinion before starting such a time consuming calculation.
>    During optimization, when Gamma was the only k-point, I tested the
> basis size through an SCF cycle (MSR1) with an intermediary structure
> *and iqtlsave = 1.* In that case, the effective RKmax was 2.38 and the
> calculation converged without a problem, but the RMT's were smaller than
> now (0.98 (C), 1.18 (N) and 0.64 (H)).
>    Is there any other parameter that you would like to know ?
>    Thank you again.
>    All the best,
>                      Luis
>
> 2017-09-27 1:49 GMT-03:00 Peter Blaha <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
> <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>:
>
>     As I said, iqtlsave should ONLY be used in very special cases (high
>     pressure). It usually is a hint for ghostbands and one should not
>     switch it of.
>
>     I don't think the problems come from a not optimized structure,
>     except when the positions would be extremely wrong.
>
>     The RMTs are probably ok.
>
>     When I say, you should remove the lo for C, l=0, I meant to remove
>     the line with l=0 and 0.30 as energy parameter, but keep the line
>     with -0.7xx.
>
>     PS: I hope you reduced RKMax to 3 (or for the beginning to save time
>     during crude position optimization even 2.75)
>
>     Am 26.09.2017 um 19:31 schrieb Luis Ogando:
>
>         Dear Prof. Blaha,
>
>             Thank you very much for your response !
>             The molecule has 100 atoms and the only symmetry operation
>         is identity. You can imagine the computation time required for
>         optimization. I turned "iqtlsave" off during optimization in
>         order to avoid interruption due to fortuitous atom displacement.
>         Anyway, after getting the relaxed structure, I turned it on
>         again (and got the problem).
>             The RMT's I am using are 1.25 (C), 1.24 (N) and 0.67 (H).
>         These values were suggested by init_lapw.
>             As you previewed, l=0 local orbitals for C are problematic
>         and I removed them during optimization. I also removed the l=0
>         local orbitals for N and kept the same basis set for the next
>         calculations, with the optimized structure.
>             I believe that it is important to say that I got the error
>         message on the SCF cycle number 25 after energy convergence on
>         cycle 23 (-ec 0.0001 -cc 0.0001). During optimization I used
>         "-ec 0.001 -cc 0.001 -fc 1.0"  . Do you believe that the problem
>         can be related to a "non" fully relaxed structure ?
>             Thank you again !
>             All the best,
>                          Luis
>
>
>         2017-09-25 16:57 GMT-03:00 Peter Blaha
>         <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>         <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>         <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>         <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>>:
>
>             Yes, worry !!
>
>             Why did you change iqtlsave in the first place ? It is not
>         sace and
>             ment only for special cases like very large pressure.
>
>             I guess you had spurious ghost bands and most likely the
>         problems
>             come form the small C sphere and the l=0 LO on Carbon.
>             Remove the C l=0 local orbital.
>
>
>             Am 25.09.2017 um 20:56 schrieb Luis Ogando:
>
>                 Dear Wien2k community,
>
>                      My system is a molecule (H, C and N) with vacuum
>         along "y"
>                 and "z".
>                      After optimizing the structure using only the Gamma
>         point
>                 (large cell) and iqtlsave = 0, I am trying to get the
>         DOS using
>                 more k-points.
>                      To do this, I turned iqtlsave on (iqtlsave=1) and I am
>                 getting the message "LAPW2: semicore band-ranges too large".
>                 Should I worry about this ?
>                      Thank you very much.
>                      All the best,
>                                       Luis
>
>
>
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