[Wien] $DEC! NOOPTIMIZE equivalents in gfortran?
Laurence Marks
L-marks at northwestern.edu
Thu Aug 9 15:11:44 CEST 2018
I changed the version to include a pre-converged MSR1
A fresh pair of eyes would be useful. The minimum is somewhere in the range
for atom 7 z 0.2610-0.2616, but it is very ill-conditioned and noisy. Why
is unclear.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Laurence Marks <L-marks at northwestern.edu>
wrote:
> Test case is not a simple question, as the Kahan summations in charge.f
> are used in lapw0/1/2 mixer and a few other places. I have noticed minor
> changes in energies (1E-5 Ryd) with preventing ifort from optimizing
> charge.f. However, this is very tricky as ifort does 80 bit operations and
> only later truncates to 64, so it could be that without optimization the
> results are less accurate. In an ideal world the compiler will use 80 bit
> carries and not optimize out the summation.
>
> If useful, a nasty ill-conditioned case is at
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xlI3-qf4RKOS8mWdR38bfo4a9Y
> q_t4u/view?usp=sharing
>
> You will need to do lstart/dstart then a few (15-25) MSR1 before switching
> to MSR1a. The convergence is somewhat random, some of this may be in the
> mixer and some elsewhere. By ill-conditioned I mean that if you first do 24
> MSR1 versus 25, the number of iterations to convergence, or even whether it
> converges will be different. Sometimes two runs from the same starting
> points converge (or not) in a different number of iterations.
>
> Where the ill-conditioning comes from is unclear to me.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Pavel Ondračka <pavel.ondracka at email.cz>
> wrote:
>
>> I can look at the gfortran, what is your testcase?
>>
>> I tried to take a quick look with the full mixer using one random TiO2
>> case. I put a breakpoint after some random Kahan sum (specifically this
>> was at charge.f:150 in Wien2k 18.2) and I looked for the differences
>> between O0 and O2. I was actually looking for small differences, but
>> the value of sum was 0 with -O2 vs 739.29 with -O0!
>>
>> Hence in this case it looks like either the different optimization
>> levels influence the program flow, or the optimizations caused the
>> shift of the breakpoint to some other place.
>>
>> It might also be possible that this is a gdb problem since there is a
>> lot of
>> ** On entry to DHSEQR parameter number 4 had an illegal value
>> ** On entry to DGEBAL parameter number 3 had an illegal value
>> ** On entry to DGEHRD parameter number 2 had an illegal value
>> spam which I have no idea about and <error reading variable ....
>> (access outside bounds of object referenced via synthetic pointer)>
>>
>> BTW valgrind is also not happy with the mixer (even at -O0 there are
>> lot of "Use of uninitialised value ... and On entry to DHSEQR parameter
>> number 4 had an illegal value )
>>
>> If you can produce a simple testcase, I'd be happy to look into the
>> Kahan sum problem, but at the moment I can't reproduce with the full
>> mixer due to the aforementioned problems.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Pavel
>>
>> Laurence Marks píše v St 08. 08. 2018 v 11:44 -0500:
>> > I am testing adding the compiler directive !DEC$ NOOPTIMIZE to the
>> > Kahan summations in charge.f in order to prevent ifort from
>> > optimizing the summation away. It seems to help.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know if there are equivalents in gfortran or other
>> > compilers? (I can't find anything for gfortran.)
>> >
>> > N.B., if anyone has experience with directives and wants to suggest
>> > others that may be faster but will avoid optimizing away the
>> > summation I am open to suggestions.
>> >
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Professor Laurence Marks
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else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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