[Wien] Energy converged but charge not converging for charged supercell

Ashwani Kumar ashwani.ism at gmail.com
Mon Jun 8 00:32:48 CEST 2020


RMTs are Sr:2.05,  Ti:1.70,  Ta:1.80,   O:1.55. For your reference,
structure file is attached.
6 k points in IBZ (ndiv:3, 3, 3), simple GGA calculation.

**"With expected RMTs for STO I don't expect rkmax=5.5 to be adequate"**
Yes Dr. Marks, I agree with you. 6.5 would have been ok. But i need EFG
values accurate to just 0.1 order and not 0.01 (considering the huge
computational time it will take to converge for rkmax:6.5).

**"and 4.0 is silly"**
I was trying to optimize structure first with lower rkmax and then with
actual rkmax. I got to know this method from various mailing list threads.
one shared here. However, with actual rkmax :DIS very very slow or i can
say not converging at all.
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg00344.html

** i think your chemistry is wrong as well**
You must be saying this with the thought "why Ta will have +4 OS". My
reasoning: i just want to match my experimentally obtained EFG, asymmetry
parameter with the theoretical calculations. I also want to check existence
of different charge states of Ta in Strontium titanate. please see one such
study reported  "coexistence of different charge states of Ta doped
monoclinic Hafnia."
https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.82.165203

Procedure i followed till now 1. created 3x3x3 supercell of strontium
titanate, replaced one Ti with one Ta ; (2). :ENE & :DIS converged; (3).
force convergence and structure optimization (here noted EFG value); (4).
Made supercell a charged supercell (5). :ENE converged but :DIS not
converged.

Please let me know what should i do to make it converge. And i request you
to elaborate your thoughts if i m doing mistake somewhere,

thanking you,
A. kumar

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:20 AM Laurence Marks <laurence.marks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> You are still not providing information. With expected RMTs for STO I
> don't expect rkmax=5.5 to be adequate, and 4.0 is silly. I think your
> chemistry is wrong as well.
>
> _____
> Professor Laurence Marks
> "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody
> else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 15:29 Ashwani Kumar <ashwani.ism at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Dr. Marks,
>>    I could not explain myself due to 40 kb size limitation. I want to
>> calculate EFG, asymmetry parameter at Ta in Ta-doped Strontium titanate
>> (3x3x3) supercell. Replaced 1 Ti atom with Ta atom. SCF converged well for
>> neutral supercell (Ta in +4 OS). Then did force convergence and
>> minimization to obtain optimized structure. Now supercell is made charged
>> by adding 1e in  *case.in2* and *case.inm *edited by adding 1.0 (for
>> Ta=+5 OS). SCF (:DIS and :ENE) converged for rkmax=4.0 but :DIS is not
>> converging for rkmax=5.5. I wanted to speed up my calculation so initially
>> started with rkmax=4.0 and then with rkmax=5.5 for charged supercell.
>>
>> thanking you,
>> A. kumar
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:30 AM Laurence Marks <laurence.marks at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You have not provided enough information for anyone to guess. Basic info
>>> is described in the list recommendation, and include:
>>> 1) RMTs
>>> 2) K-points
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