[Wien] Irrep output file

Peter Blaha pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Mon Jun 22 09:41:48 CEST 2020


Please send me exactly the struct file you are using (with SO) + details 
of the calculation (spin-polarization ???) to my private email.

Are you using the latest WIEN2k version ?

Am 21.06.2020 um 23:27 schrieb Md. Fhokrul Islam:
> Hi Gavin,
> 
> Thank you for your reply. I have another calculation with a different 
> k-path but output file still contains "??" marks. I am also not sure if 
> the complex numbers are the characters of the point group. Here are few 
> bands at a general k-points which belongs to C1 point group. This group 
> has only unit operator, E. So, the character of E should be 1. But the 
> numbers listed under operator E in the output file are clearly 
> different, and doesn't look like due to rounding error. Maybe I 
> misunderstood the output file.
> 
> 
> knum =  2    kname=
> k = 0.000000 0.000000 0.225000
> 
>         The point group is C1
>         1 symmetry operations in  1 classes
> 
>                           E
>         G1    A1     1
>         --------------
>         G2    A1/2  1
> 
> bnd ndg      eigval         E
> ....
>   15    2    -4.673171   1.56-0.00i  ??
>   17    2    -4.673047   0.04+0.00i ??
>   19    2    -4.673041   0.03-0.00i  ??
>   21    4    -4.672125   0.07-0.00i  ??
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fhokrul
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Wien <wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> on behalf of 
> Gavin Abo <gsabo at crimson.ua.edu>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2020 3:35 AM
> *To:* wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Irrep output file
> I'm not sure that I have the proper answers but given below is what I'm 
> currently thinking they might be.
>> I am trying to extract irreducible representation of eigenvalues. I 
>> have obtained the case.outputirso and case.irrepso files. But I am not 
>> sure if I understood these files correctly. The Ci point group has two 
>> irreducible representations as listed in the file but many of the 
>> eigenstates are labelled by "??". Am I doing anything wrong?
> 
> The 3.99-0.00i  0.00+0.00i for band 109 for E and I values, 
> respectively, look very close to 4.00+0.00i  0.00-0.00i for band 105. I 
> wondering if perhaps there is some round off error where the ?? might 
> indicate that the program was not able to identify a irreducible 
> representation label corresponding to 3.99-0.00i  0.00+0.00i (since it 
> would need to be 4.00+0.00i  0.00-0.00 to have G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2- in 
> this case).  I'm wondering if that would be effected by your k-mesh.  
> Have you tried change it to see if the values change?  There is also a 
> tolerance value (TOL variable) in SRC_irrep/wrtir.f that looks like it 
> could be adjusted. Though, I would only fiddle with that as a last resort.
> 
>>  The bands 105 -108 are four-fold degenerate with irrep of the double 
>> group G2+, G2+,G2-,G2-, respectively, right?
> 
> I believe you are right about that.
> 
>> Also, can anyone please clarify what are the complex numbers under 
>> operators E and I?
> 
> Since in some point groups the characters can be complex [1], I guessing 
> the developer for programming simplicity decided to output the results 
> always in complex number notation even though in many cases it is only a 
> real number.  For your calculation, it appears to be only be a real 
> number as the imaginary part is zero (i.e., 0.00i).
> 
> [1] 
> https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Pacific_Union_College/Quantum_Chemistry/12%3A_Group_Theory_-_The_Exploitation_of_Symmetry/12.06%3A_Character_Tables#Irreducible_representations_with_complex_characters
> 
>> case. outputirso:
>>
>>        The point group is Ci
>>        2 symmetry operations in  2 classes
>>        Table  6   on page  32 in Koster  et al [7]
>>        Table 11.4 on page 138 in Altmann et al [8]
>>
>>                            E     I
>>        G1+   A1g    1     1
>>        G1-    A1u    1    -1
>>        --------------------
>>        G2+  A1/2g  1     1
>>        G2-   A1/2u  1    -1
>>
>>
>> class, symmetry ops, exp(-i*k*taui)
>>    E    2             (+1.00 0.00i)
>>     I    1             (+1.00 0.00i)
>>
>> bnd ndg  eigval     E                   I
>>   1  2 -4.675588 1.99+0.00i -1.99-0.00i  ??
>>   3  2 -4.675572 1.99-0.00i   1.99-0.00i  ??
>>   5  2 -4.674606 1.98-0.00i  -1.98+0.00i ??
>> ...
>> ...
>>  97  4 -4.261267 3.97+0.00i -0.00-0.00i  ??
>> 101  4 -4.261167 3.99-0.00i  0.01+0.00i  ??
>> 105  4 -4.260795 4.00-0.00i  0.00+0.00i =G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2-
>> 109  4 -4.259344 3.99-0.00i  0.00+0.00i ??
>> 113  4 -4.258747 4.00+0.00i  0.00-0.00i =G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2-
>> 117  4 -4.258715 4.00-0.00i  0.00+0.00i =G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2-
>> 121  4 -2.333313 3.90-0.00i -0.01-0.00i ??
>> 125  4 -2.333098 4.00+0.00i -0.00-0.00i =G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2-
>> 129  4 -2.332321 3.93+0.00i -0.02+0.00i ??
>>
>> The corresponding bands in the case.irrepso file:
>> ....
>>        104         4  -4.261165    0  0    0  0    0  0    0  0
>>        105         4  -4.260795    2  1    2  1   -2  1   -2  1
>>        106         4  -4.260795    2  1    2  1   -2  1   -2  1
>>        107         4  -4.260791    2  1    2  1   -2  1   -2  1
>>        108         4  -4.260791    2  1    2  1   -2  1   -2  1
>>        109         4  -4.259344    0  0    0  0    0  0    0  0
>>        110         4  -4.259344    0  0    0  0    0  0    0  0
>> ....
>>
>> What are the numbers in column 4-7?
> 
> In case. outputirso for band 105, there is:
> 
> G2+ + G2+ + G2- + G2-
> 
> In case.irrepso for band 105, there is:
> 
> 2  1 2  1 -2  1 -2  1
> 
> The columns 4 & 5, 6 & 7, 8 & 9, and 10 & 11 might correspond to 
> irreducible representation numbers that correspond with the labels 
> (e.g., G2+ with 2 1 and G2- with -2 1).
> 
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