<div dir="ltr">I have a suspicion what this is, and it is something that I am struggling with. Do any of the people who are experiencing this use .forward, or is there a .forward within the WIEN2k subscription checking structure?<div><br></div><div>The problem may be related to what is called DMARC policy, which breaks the standard .forward structure. As an example of this, one of the emails in this thread (from Lyudmilla I think) did not reach me. The information I have is:</div><div><br></div>"Remote Server returned '<<a href="http://gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com">gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com</a> #5.7.1 SMTP; 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from <a href="http://mail.ru">mail.ru</a> is not accepted due to domain's>'"<br><br>(The above is truncated by the server at Northwestern.) I can find this information at Northwestern's outlook webserver which I have configured to forward to my gmail account.<br><br>My understanding is that when the email is forwarded by <a href="http://northwestern.edu">northwestern.edu</a> to my (main) gmail account, it is an address <a href="http://mail.ru">mail.ru</a> being sent by <a href="http://northwestern.edu">northwestern.edu</a>. Google checks with the DMARC policy of mail.run to see if northwestern is allowed to send a mail.run email. Since it is not, gmail rejects it.<div><br></div><div>My understanding is that .forward is problematic, and on its way out -- I have not heard of any way to repair/overcome this. If anyone does, please let me know (although it is far from the topic of the list).</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Fabiana Da Pieve <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabiana.dapieve@gmail.com" target="_blank">fabiana.dapieve@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear Prof. Blaha<br>
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I have checked my spam inbox and no, none of the email that my gmail account automatically archived as spam was coming from Wien2k, in THIS last period.
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However, in the past sometimes it has happened , that's true, that I have found some emails from Wien2k in the spam box (one, or two over more than one hundred spam email).
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But considering that I am lazy in empting my spam inbox, those one/two emails over more than one hundred were corresponding to a period that was spanning more than 3 weeks.<br>
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<div>So, strange that 5 or 10 bounces are generated in a period of 3 weeks (which is the frequency with which I have to renew the membership).<br>
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In any case, the problem is not only detected by those who have a gmail account (lyudmila has
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<div>Thanks for your attention<br>
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<div>Fabiana<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-30 16:49 GMT+01:00 Luis Ogando <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lcodacal@gmail.com" target="_blank">lcodacal@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>Dear Prof. Blaha,<br>
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Unfortunately, I am facing the same problem described by Dr. Fabiana Da Pieve.<br>
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Please, let me know if I can do anything to help.<br>
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All the best,<br>
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Luis<br>
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I've nothing changed recently in the mailing list configuration, so I don't know why this should now happen (except when your mail system has changed e.g spam-processing, ...)<br>
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It probably comes from bounce processing, i.e. mailman cannot send to your email addresses and gets a bounce back. After 5 (or 10 days if it is a soft bounce) it will disable your membership and just before, it will send you a warning.<br>
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It may have to do with your specific email accounts ? maybe they think it is spam ... ?<br>
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Of course, I can increase the bounce level from 5 (up to 10), but for sure I want to keep it, otherwise mailman will keep outdated addresses forever and continues to send mails to them.<br>
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Am 30.01.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Fabiana Da Pieve:<br>
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Dear Wien2k developers<br>
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I am a pretty silent user of Wien2k since many years and I always read<br>
with pleasure the emails of the different users, which sometimes are<br>
also useful for me.<br>
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However, in the last period I get very often (every 3 weeks) an email to<br>
confirm my membership to the mailing list, and if I do not do it soon my<br>
membership is cancelled the very same day.<br>
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I do not think this is normal. Or is it ?<br>
In any case, before it was not the case. Is there something I can do to<br>
avoid this ?<br>
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Thank you very much for your attention<br>
Fabiana Da Pieve<br>
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