<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear <span style="font-size:12.8px">Dr. Martin Pieper</span></div>Thank you very much for your reply.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-28 14:02 GMT+01:00 pieper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pieper@ifp.tuwien.ac.at" target="_blank">pieper@ifp.tuwien.ac.at</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Until one of the real experts (I am not among them) finds time to answer: My guess is that both is correct, Ueff=U-J as well as Ueff=U-J/2. That is, the meaningful thing to do is set J=0 (see UG section on ORB), and not estimate it from DFT.<br>
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The common ground between ORB or DFT and the magnetism of atoms as in Hunds rules is a multiband Hubbard model.<br>
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For the latter, the multiple correlation energy parameters of such a model are summarized into one intra-orbital U, one inter-orbital V, and a Hund's rule parameter J reducing the inter-orbital correlation energy for same spin direction. [1].<br>
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For the former, the parameter Ueff represents on-site contributions to the correlation energy which are underestimated by L(S)DA. Ueff is, therefore, an approximation that has to estimate the contribution already accounted for by L(S)DA - which leads to options 1,2,3 for different self-interaction corrections.<br>
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I doubt that there is a general and safe way to assign specific parts of the correlation energy to U, V, and J. At least, the authors of the ORB code recommend to avoid the ambiguities [2], and to set J=0.<br>
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[1] see for example, the talk 'Localized Electrons with Wien2k' by Elias Assmann Wien, workshop 2013, ldau.pdf among the documentations on the Wien2k site<br>
[2] G. K. H. Madsen and P. Novák, Europhys. Lett. 69, 777 (2005)<br>
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Am 28.11.2017 08:42, schrieb karima Physique:<br>
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Dear prof. P. Blaha and wien2k users :<br>
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I am still waiting for your answers and I thank you in advance.<br>
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my question was :<br>
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Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained<br>
DFT.?<br>
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Thank you in advance<br>
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2017-11-27 12:05 GMT+01:00 karima Physique<br>
<<a href="mailto:physique.karima@gmail.com" target="_blank">physique.karima@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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Dear Wien2k users:<br>
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Does Ueff=U-J or Ueff=U- 1/2 J? how to estimate J using constrained<br>
DFT.?<br>
<br>
Thank you in advance<br>
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