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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>I am very grateful to communicate with you </span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">my compound is quaternary all atoms are <span>d-Orbitals of  transition metal</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>i did the geometry optimisation successfuly </span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Now i'm trying to do minimisation of position with hf     </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">after i intialisation init_hf_lapw  i filled nband i did this  ( runsp_lapw -hf -ec -f 1 0.0001 -cc 0.001 -NI)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">but with more then 200 iterations never get convegence ???  </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div>
        
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                    Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019 à 18:27:12 UTC+1, Xavier Rocquefelte <xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr> a écrit :
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    <p>If you want our help we need to have details about your system. <br clear="none">
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    <p>Then we can advice you concerning the best strategy. <br clear="none">
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    <p>Best Regards</p>
    <p>Xavier<br clear="none">
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    <div class="yiv7671949476moz-cite-prefix">Le 21/11/2019 à 18:02, djamel slamnia a
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        <div dir="ltr">tha<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">nks a lot Mr XAVIER for</span></span></div>
        <div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> i'm trayi<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">ng hard to do optio<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">n 2.a mi<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">nimisatio<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">n positio<span><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">n with
                                  hybrid  functionel but the process did
                                  not converged after more than 200
                                  iteration ??  </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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                                  you <span>Suggests me solutio</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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          <div> Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019 à 16:51:45 UTC+1, Xavier
            Rocquefelte <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7671949476moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr" target="_blank" href="mailto:xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr"><xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr></a> a
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                <p>Hummm ... Here are many options ... choose the one
                  you like ;)</p>
                <p>1/ You consider the importance to have hybrid
                  functional to properly describe the atomic structure.
                  If not, optimize using regular DFT and then estimate
                  the property of interest with hybrid functional using
                  to optimized structure in regular DFT. <br clear="none">
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                <p>2/ You really want to optimize the geometry in hybrid
                  because your system requires such a level of accuracy:
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                <p>2.a. you implement the optimization using hybrid
                  functional in WIEN2k and all the community will be
                  happy of such a contribution</p>
                <p>2.b. you use a plane-wave code (the one you like) and
                  you optimize in hybrid. Then you use this optimized
                  structure in WIEN2k to simulate a specific property or
                  to do an accurate analysis. <br clear="none">
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                <p>Regards,</p>
                <p>Xavier<br clear="none">
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                <div class="yiv7671949476moz-cite-prefix">Le 21/11/2019
                  à 16:41, djamel slamnia a écrit :<br clear="none">
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                  <div dir="ltr">so what  i have to do  <span>now ??? 
                      tha<span>nks i<span>n adva<span>nce</span></span></span></span></div>
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                      Tran, Fabien <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7671949476moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:fabien.tran@tuwien.ac.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:fabien.tran@tuwien.ac.at"><fabien.tran@tuwien.ac.at></a>
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                          <p>If you are trying to do an optimization of
                            atom positions, then you can not do it with
                            hybrid functional (-hf option) because the
                            forces are not implemented for hybrid
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                                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 20,
                                  2019 2:41 PM<br clear="none">
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                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Wien] Beween non
                                  spin polarized and spin polarized
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                                    functional i tryed to do
                                    minimisation MSR1 but i cant get
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                                  <div dir="ltr">what is the solution in
                                    your opinion ??   thank in advance </div>
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                                    <div>Le dimanche 17 novembre 2019 à
                                      18:36:12 UTC+1, Abderrahmane
                                      Reggad <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7671949476moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:abde.reggad@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:abde.reggad@gmail.com"><abde.reggad@gmail.com></a>
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                                            Thanks xavier for the
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                                            My new question is : what's
                                            the relationship between the
                                            unpaired electrons and the
                                            orbital contribution. I
                                            think that the unpaired
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