<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#000000">As Xavier said, you cannot optimize positions (MSR1a/MSEC3a/Port) with a hybrid. You can only optimize for the simpler GGA's with -orb or -eece, then use these positions.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:04 AM djamel slamnia <<a href="mailto:djamel4009@yahoo.fr">djamel4009@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir="ltr">tha<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">nks a lot Mr XAVIER for</span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> i'm trayi<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">ng hard to do optio<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">n 2.a mi<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">nimisatio<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">n positio<span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">n with hybrid  functionel but the process did not converged after more than 200 iteration ??  </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">can you <span>Suggests me solutio</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
        
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                    Le jeudi 21 novembre 2019 à 16:51:45 UTC+1, Xavier Rocquefelte <<a href="mailto:xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr" target="_blank">xavier.rocquefelte@univ-rennes1.fr</a>> a écrit :
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    <p>Hummm ... Here are many options ... choose the one you like ;)</p>
    <p>1/ You consider the importance to have hybrid functional to
      properly describe the atomic structure. If not, optimize using
      regular DFT and then estimate the property of interest with hybrid
      functional using to optimized structure in regular DFT. <br clear="none">
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    <p>2/ You really want to optimize the geometry in hybrid because
      your system requires such a level of accuracy: <br clear="none">
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    <p>2.a. you implement the optimization using hybrid functional in
      WIEN2k and all the community will be happy of such a contribution</p>
    <p>2.b. you use a plane-wave code (the one you like) and you
      optimize in hybrid. Then you use this optimized structure in
      WIEN2k to simulate a specific property or to do an accurate
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    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Xavier<br clear="none">
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    <div>Le 21/11/2019 à 16:41, djamel slamnia a
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        <div dir="ltr">so what  i have to do  <span>now
            ???  tha<span>nks i<span>n adva<span>nce</span></span></span></span></div>
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            Fabien <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:fabien.tran@tuwien.ac.at" target="_blank"><fabien.tran@tuwien.ac.at></a> a écrit : </div>
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                <p>If you are trying to do an optimization of atom
                  positions, then you can not do it with hybrid
                  functional (-hf option) because the forces are not
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                        <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:41
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                        <div dir="ltr">i'm  using hf hybrid functional i
                          tryed to do minimisation MSR1 but i cant get
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                        <div dir="ltr">what is the solution in your
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                          <div>Le dimanche 17 novembre 2019 à 18:36:12
                            UTC+1, Abderrahmane Reggad
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                                  Thanks xavier for the interesting
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                                  My new question is : what's the
                                  relationship between the unpaired
                                  electrons and the orbital
                                  contribution. I think that the
                                  unpaired electrons are always related
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Professor Laurence Marks<br>Department of Materials Science and Engineering<br>Northwestern University<br><a href="http://www.numis.northwestern.edu/" target="_blank">www.numis.northwestern.edu</a><div>Corrosion in 4D: <a href="http://www.numis.northwestern.edu/MURI" target="_blank">www.numis.northwestern.edu/MURI</a><br>Co-Editor, Acta Cryst A<br>"Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought"<br>Albert Szent-Gyorgi</div></div></div>