[Wien] Structural relaxation in hybrid calculations

tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Wed Aug 8 17:14:09 CEST 2018


Yes it' ok.

On Wednesday 2018-08-08 14:44, Dr. K. C. Bhamu wrote:

>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 14:44:10
>From: Dr. K. C. Bhamu <kcbhamu85 at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <Wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>Subject: [Wien] Structural relaxation in hybrid calculations
>
>Dear Dr. Tran,
>
>I see a workaround for structural relaxation for YS-PBE0.
>
>PBE optimization with "min_lapw ...." or "run_lapw ..... -min' will give relaxed structure at different volumes.
>
>Make another dir and initialize the case and copy all relaxed structure to pwd and do optimization with YS-PBE0 without relaxation and run
>optimize.job
>
>Could you please verify this workaround?
>
>Regards
>Bhamu
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:30 PM, <tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>      No
>
>      On Saturday 2018-08-04 16:22, Dr. K. C. Bhamu wrote:
>
>            Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 16:22:20
>            From: Dr. K. C. Bhamu <kcbhamu85 at gmail.com>
>            Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>            To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>            Subject: Re: [Wien] regarding mixing parameter in hybrid calculations
>
>            Thanks Dr. Tran,
>
>
>
>            My mistake, the standard value is 0.25!!
>
>            Yes, I saw the link you provided (response was on my own queries).
>
>
>            What is advised there is:
>
>
>            "What you get from the optic calculation (the case.epsilon) file is only the electronic part  (and not even the whole
>            electronic part) of the dielectric
>            constant."
>
>            To get the ionic part of the static dielectric  constant you would need to do the BERRYPI calculations to get Born
>            effective charges tensors."
>
>
>
>            Do you have any previous experience on how much the properties may vary if we avoid the "ionic part of the dielectric
>            constant'?
>
>
>
>            Thanks and regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>            On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 7:13 PM, <tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>                 Hi,
>
>                 First, the standard value is 0.25 and not 0.025.
>
>                 For the dielectric constant, there was alreday some explanations here:
>                 https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg14936.html
>                 https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg14875.html
>
>                 alpha_opt at V=V_exp means that the dielectric function (and alpha_opt)
>                 is calculated only at V_exp and then used for all other volumes.
>                 See also this:
>                 https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg15531.html
>
>                 No, it is not mandatory to do PBE calculation before YS-PBE0. Starting
>                 YS-PBE0 from PBE electron density (case.clmsum) may just help to reduce
>                 the number of SCF iterations with YS-PBE0.
>
>                 Of course it is possible to optimize lattice parameters with YS-PBE0.
>                 You just need to add the "-hf" option in the optimize.job file.
>                 What is not possible with YS-PBE0 is to optimize the position of
>                 atoms in the unit cell (because the forces are not implemented for
>                 YS-PBE0).
>
>                 FT
>
>
>                 On Saturday 2018-08-04 14:46, Dr. K. C. Bhamu wrote:
>
>                       Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 14:46:02
>                       From: Dr. K. C. Bhamu <kcbhamu85 at gmail.com>
>                       Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>                       To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users <Wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>                       Subject: [Wien] regarding mixing parameter in hybrid calculations
>
>                       Dear Dr. Tran,
>
>                       In the recent past, I did some calculations using YS-PBE0 for MgO and results were well reproduced (wien2k
>            Exercise).
>
>                       I just read your paper (J. Phys.: Condens. Matter 25 (2013)) and get to know that we can control the mixing
>            parameter using various
>                       ways.
>
>                       1) Standard value (0.025)
>                       2) By fitting  (alpa_opt)
>                       3) alpa_opt (V=V_exp)
>
>                       I have queries for option 2 and 3 alpa:
>
>                       2) If I am not wrong (after having a detailed search), the value of dielectric constant used to get
>            alpa_opt is the value of dielectric
>                       constant from
>                       Rel(epsilon) at energy 0.013610 eV, right?
>
>                       3) How to get alpa_opt at V-V_exp?
>
>
>
>
>
>                       My next query is:
>
>                       It is reported in the Wien2k exercise that to do YS-PBE0 calculations we need to do a simple PBE scf.  So
>            if we really need to perform
>                       PBE calculations before
>                       going to YS-PBE0, I am wondering how to use YS-PBE0 to optimize the lattice parameters and to get
>            structural properties?
>
>
>                       Could you please advice me on my concerns?
>
>                       * in above text "_" means an underscore.
>
>
>                       regards
>
>
>
>
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