[Wien] metal or semiconductor

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Thu Aug 8 11:56:31 CEST 2019


we have not 4f-Nb states in DOS

Le jeu. 8 août 2019 à 11:53, Laurence Marks <laurence.marks at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> What about the 4f?
>
> ---
> Prof Laurence Marks
> "Research is to see what everyone else has seen, and to think what nobody
> else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi
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> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 17:42 Wien2k User <wien2k.user at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry for the mistake but the element is the Niobium (Nb) with 4d
>> partially filled states
>>
>> Le jeu. 8 août 2019 à 07:22, Peter Blaha <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Nd does not have 3d valence states.
>>>
>>> Am 07.08.2019 um 22:35 schrieb Wien2k User:
>>> > Dear Prof. Peter BLAHA
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for all these explanations
>>> >
>>> > for our system, the gap is built by 3d-states of Neodymium only
>>> >
>>> > within GGA+U, Fermi level passes through the top of the valence band
>>> > with the presence of a band overlap between 3d states. But by adding
>>> > mBJ, the level shifts to the top of the valence band with acreationof
>>> a
>>> > band-gap
>>> >
>>> > We have considered thta mBJ is more suitable for our system, but we
>>> are
>>> > still waiting for comments from you
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Le mer. 7 août 2019 à 20:38, Peter Blaha <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>>> > <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>> a écrit :
>>> >
>>> >     GGA+U affects only the position of the correlated electrons (3d
>>> band or
>>> >     4f, ..), but not of the delocalized states (eg. Ni-4s band in NiO)
>>> >
>>> >     Therefore you cannot get the correct gap in NiO with GGA+U,
>>> because the
>>> >     Ni-4s states limit the size of the gap, even when you split the
>>> d-band
>>> >     by an enormous U.
>>> >
>>> >     mBJ also affects the Ni-4s states and shift it up, so that the gap
>>> is
>>> >     correct.
>>> >
>>> >     On the other hand, for 4f systems, mBJ can be too "weak" to open a
>>> gap.
>>> >
>>> >     Since we do not know your compound, we cannot say anything
>>> concrete,
>>> >     but: yes, there is a possibility that GGA+U still gives a metal
>>> while
>>> >     mBJ gives a semiconductor.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     Am 07.08.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Wien2k User:
>>> >      > Dear Prof.Laurence Marks
>>> >      > thank you very much for your reply
>>> >      >
>>> >      > my scientific reasoning is the following;
>>> >      > i noticed that mbj and GGA+U give almost the same band topology
>>> >     except
>>> >      > that mBJ caused a band shift that showed semiconductor behavior,
>>> >      > i think that mBJ is better suited to describe band-gaps than
>>> >     GGA+U, i
>>> >      > think the material is semiconductor
>>> >      >
>>> >      > I still have a confirmation or another explanation
>>> >      >
>>> >      > Le mer. 7 août 2019 à 19:30, Laurence Marks
>>> >     <laurence.marks at gmail.com <mailto:laurence.marks at gmail.com>
>>> >      > <mailto:laurence.marks at gmail.com
>>> >     <mailto:laurence.marks at gmail.com>>> a écrit :
>>> >      >
>>> >      >     A good question which nobody can answer for you. These
>>> >     questions are
>>> >      >     why we do science.
>>> >      >
>>> >      >     _____
>>> >      >     Professor Laurence Marks
>>> >      >     "Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to
>>> >     think what
>>> >      >     nobody else has thought", Albert Szent-Gyorgi
>>> >      > www.numis.northwestern.edu <http://www.numis.northwestern.edu>
>>> >     <http://www.numis.northwestern.edu>
>>> >      >
>>> >      >     On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 18:22 Wien2k User <
>>> wien2k.user at gmail.com
>>> >     <mailto:wien2k.user at gmail.com>
>>> >      >     <mailto:wien2k.user at gmail.com
>>> >     <mailto:wien2k.user at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >      >
>>> >      >         Dear Wien2k users;
>>> >      >
>>> >      >
>>> >      >         after GGA+U+SOC calculation,  I found that the studied
>>> >     material
>>> >      >         is a metal ( even for a large value of Ueff ) but when I
>>> >     redid
>>> >      >         another calculation with mBJ based on GGA+U+SOC
>>> >      >         {mbj(GGA+U+SOC)}, I found a semiconductor.
>>> >      >
>>> >      >         Which of these two behaviors is the most correct?
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