[Wien] Query regarding structure optimization

Gavin Abo gsabo at crimson.ua.edu
Tue Jun 23 07:06:48 CEST 2020


The WIEN2k 19.1 usersguide [1] on page 67 under section 5.1.4 has:

-dm   ->        calculate the density matrix (when -so is set, but -orb 
is not)

That seems to indicate that the -dm needs -so to work (e.g., runsp_lapw 
-dm -so).  If you use "runsp_lapw -dm -orb", the program will probably 
ignore the -dm switch and run fine. However, if you care about proper 
usage it would seem to be "runsp -orb" without the -dm based on that 
description in the usersguide.

On 21 June 2020, it looks like it was advised in the post [2] to use 
-min [3,4].  Based on that, you might want to reconsider your use of the 
min_lapw optimize.job line (min -I -j "run_lapw -I -fc 1.0 -i 40 ") in 
your email below.

It looks like it would be fine to use for -orb [5,6] and spin 
polarization, in optimize.job for simultaneous optimization of lattice 
parameters and atomic positions [7], the following line:

runsp_lapw -orb  -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.01 -fc 1 -min

However, if you encounter convergence problems, you might have to take 
the advice [8,9] to try a crude convergence followed by a more refined 
convergence such as:

runsp_lapw -orb -ec 0.1 -cc 0.01 -fc 4
save_lapw -d ${i}PreMin
runsp_lapw -orb -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.001 -fc 1 -min

[1] http://susi.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/reg_user/textbooks/usersguide.pdf
[2] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg20232.html
[3] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg13712.html
[4] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg18055.html
[5] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg18844.html
[6] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg19278.html
[7] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg18071.html
[8] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg17228.html
[9] 
https://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg18069.html

On 6/22/2020 7:40 AM, shamik chakrabarti wrote:
> Dear Wien2k users,
>                               Whether this is the correct approach for 
> editing optimize.job to run simultaneous force optimization with *-dm 
> -orb and spin polarization* *on*;
>
>                 runsp_lapw -dm -orb -ec 0.0001
>
>       min -I -j "run_lapw -I -fc 1.0 -i 40 "
>
>  #    run_lapw -ec 0.0001   # -p -it -cc 0.01 -fc 1 -min
>
> Looking forward to your response in this regard.
>
> with regards,
>
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 18:45, shamik chakrabarti 
> <shamik15041981 at gmail.com <mailto:shamik15041981 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Should I edit the optimize.job file by the following way;
>
>      runsp_lapw -dm -orb  -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.01 -fc 1 -min
>
>     to run simultaneous optimization of force with -dm -orb switch on
>
>     On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 13:16, shamik chakrabarti
>     <shamik15041981 at gmail.com <mailto:shamik15041981 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Thank you Sir. Your advice will be helpful.
>
>         With regards ,
>
>         On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 12:50 Peter Blaha
>         <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>         <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:
>
>             YES ! Force optimization is MUCH more important than
>             anything else.
>             Lattice parameters are usually well known from experiment
>             (and more
>             accurate than DFT), but atomic positions are often NOT
>             well known
>             experimentally.
>
>             Exception: Some structures like NaCl have "fixed positions
>             by symmetry".
>             So you have to find out yourself, if you have forces.
>
>             How to do:   Simply edit optimize.job and activate the
>             -min switch in
>             the run_lapw line.
>
>             ad 2): If your minimum is close enough to one of your
>             relaxed structures: no
>             However, whenever you change a,b or c, do a force
>             optimization.
>
>             On 6/21/20 9:01 AM, shamik chakrabarti wrote:
>             > Dear Wien2k users,
>             >
>             >         I have two queries;
>             >
>             > (1) Should we have to do force minimization
>             *simultaneously* for each
>             > step (a) V optimization, (b) c/a optimization, (c) b/a
>             optimization for
>             > a orthorhombic crystal?
>             >
>             > (2) After a, b, c optimization should we have to do
>             force minimization
>             > again? (I think yes!)
>             >
>             > with regards,
>             >
>             > --
>             > Dr. Shamik Chakrabarti
>             > Research Fellow
>             > Department of Physics
>             > Indian Institute of Technology Patna
>             > Bihta-801103
>             > Patna
>             > Bihar, India
>             >
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>
>                                                    P.Blaha
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>     -- 
>     Dr. Shamik Chakrabarti
>     Research Fellow
>     Department of Physics
>     Indian Institute of Technology Patna
>     Bihta-801103
>     Patna
>     Bihar, India
>
>
>
> -- 
> Dr. Shamik Chakrabarti
> Research Fellow
> Department of Physics
> Indian Institute of Technology Patna
> Bihta-801103
> Patna
> Bihar, India
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