[Wien] ELF

Peter Blaha peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at
Fri Nov 4 15:27:26 CET 2022


Your picture for SnSe is probably in a different plane as compared to 
the 4 pictures in the paper.
I produced 2 elf pictures, which resembles the planes in Fig. 6f and 6g.

They look as expected. In the interstital identical (see eg. the 2 
different blue features in 6f), but inside the spheres quite different 
because of the pseudopotentials.

I guess it is a general feature that inside spheres (and for heavier 
atoms) the PP ELF is nonsense.

You can download them at:

http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-f.png
http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-g.jpg
http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-t.png


Am 04.11.2022 um 00:13 schrieb reyhaneh ebrahimi:
> Dear Prof. Blaha
> I apologize. Let me make my previous Email a little more complete. As 
> you mentioned in your Email, for SnS the sources of differences between 
> the results of ELF using WIEN2k code and VASP code is due to the 
> difference between all-electron and pseudopotentials calculations in 
> these two codes. However, I am still not sure that the differences 
> between my results for the ELF of SnSe and Jiawang and Olivier's paper 
> are normal or not. I would be glad if you let me know your opinion about 
> this subject.
> Sincerely yours
> Reyhaneh Ebrahimi
> 
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:13 PM Peter Blaha <peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at 
> <mailto:peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:
> 
>     Good to hear that this has been resolved.
> 
>     PS: I just did a SnSe calc. and compared with the VASP paper.
>     Similarly,
>     very good agreement in the interstitial, while inside the atomic cores
>     there is the expected difference between all-electron and
>     pseudopotentials.
> 
>     Am 03.11.2022 um 21:06 schrieb Kateryna Foyevtsova:
>      > Dear Prof. Blaha,
>      >
>      > I think I know what's going on with ELF. Wien2k gets it
>     correctly, but
>      > Quantum Espresso has a bug which shows up in nspin=1
>     calculations. In
>      > the attached figure I compare the wien2k result with two QE
>      > calculations: (1) one with nspin=1 switch and (2) one with nspin=2
>      > switch. In both cases I am looking at the same non-magnetic solution
>      > that has the same energy in the two QE calculations.
>      >
>      > Now you see that the difference between QE nspin=1 and nspin=2 is
>      > dramatic whereas there should be none.
>      >
>      > The wien2k result looks very similar to the QE nspin=2 result in the
>      > interstitial region at 0.5,0.5,0.0, marked with a big purple "X".
>     There
>      > are differences close to atomic nuclei but this is expected given
>     that
>      > we are comparing an all-electron and a pseudo-potenial code.
>      >
>      > Thank you very much for helping me resolve this issue.
>      >
>      > Best,
>      > Kateryna
>      >
>      > On 2022-11-02 12:21, Peter Blaha wrote:
>      >> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
>      >>
>      >> My result looks like the attached picture. I do get 0.8 in the core
>      >> region of Ni, but not larger than that. It is probably similar than
>      >> yours.
>      >> I have no idea why it is different from QE, except maybe that these
>      >> are pseudopotential calc.
>      >>
>      >> As I said before, you should compare other compounds, and also
>     compare
>      >> with literature ELF calculations.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Am 01.11.2022 um 21:16 schrieb Kateryna Foyevtsova:
>      >>> Dear Prof. Blaha,
>      >>>
>      >>> thank you for looking into this issue. I've tried the modified
>      >>> create_rho.f and calculated the ELF of NdNiO2 again using
>     create_elf.
>      >>> I am getting a better agreement with QE, but it is not perfect
>     as you
>      >>> noted it too. My calculation was well converged and I used the
>     same
>      >>> k-grid and RKmax=7. The bandstructures from QE and wien2k agree
>     very
>      >>> well.
>      >>>
>      >>> I attach my comparison as a png file. I wonder whether you have
>     any
>      >>> idea about the possible reasons for the differences in ELF that
>     the
>      >>> two codes give? For example, at 0.5,0.5,0 the wien2k value is
>     ~0.22
>      >>> and the QE value is ~0.43.
>      >>>
>      >>> Thank you,
>      >>> Kateryna
>      >>>
>      >>> On 2022-10-28 04:43, Peter Blaha wrote:
>      >>>> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Dear Kateryna ,
>      >>>>
>      >>>> In fact, I found a big difference between     create_elf   and
>      >>>> x lapw0 (with VX_ELF); x lapw5 -exchange
>      >>>>
>      >>>> I traced it back to normalization errors in tau_w and tau_tf,
>     which
>      >>>> missed a factor of 2.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> The attached    create_rho.f  fixes the problem. It should be
>     copied
>      >>>> into SRC_trig; make
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Then you can use    create_elf   again.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> PS: I would always compare the ELF created with both methods as
>      >>>> indicated above. Depending on the numerics, one or the other
>     method
>      >>>> may give smoother plots, but in any case, they should be very
>     similar.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> PPS: The agreement to QE-ELF seems reasonable (but not
>     perfect), but
>      >>>> I've not converged my calculations.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Thanks for the report
>      >>>> Peter Blaha
>      >>>>
>      >>>>
>      >>>>> I attach a pdf showing the differences. Also attached are my
>     wien2k
>      >>>>> >struct file and quantum espresso input file.
>      >>>>
>      >>>>> Both calculations were done without spin polarization and
>     using PBE.
>      >>>>
>      >>>>> To me, the differences are big enough to question whether it is
>      >>>>> >meaningful to use ELF at all if it depends on all-electron vs
>      >>>>> >pseudopotential so strongly. Unless I am missing something or
>      >>>>> doing >something wrong.
>      >>>>
>      >>>>> Thank you,
>      >>>>> Kateryna
>      >>>>
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