[Wien] ELF

Peter Blaha peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at
Fri Nov 4 16:33:31 CET 2022


Sorry: the links should be:  SnSe, not SnGe

http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnSe-f.png
http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnSe-g.jpg
http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnSe-t.png


Am 04.11.2022 um 15:27 schrieb Peter Blaha:
> Your picture for SnSe is probably in a different plane as compared to 
> the 4 pictures in the paper.
> I produced 2 elf pictures, which resembles the planes in Fig. 6f and 6g.
> 
> They look as expected. In the interstital identical (see eg. the 2 
> different blue features in 6f), but inside the spheres quite different 
> because of the pseudopotentials.
> 
> I guess it is a general feature that inside spheres (and for heavier 
> atoms) the PP ELF is nonsense.
> 
> You can download them at:
> 
> http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-f.png
> http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-g.jpg
> http://www.wien2k.at/Depository/SnGe-t.png
> 
> 
> Am 04.11.2022 um 00:13 schrieb reyhaneh ebrahimi:
>> Dear Prof. Blaha
>> I apologize. Let me make my previous Email a little more complete. As 
>> you mentioned in your Email, for SnS the sources of differences 
>> between the results of ELF using WIEN2k code and VASP code is due to 
>> the difference between all-electron and pseudopotentials calculations 
>> in these two codes. However, I am still not sure that the differences 
>> between my results for the ELF of SnSe and Jiawang and Olivier's paper 
>> are normal or not. I would be glad if you let me know your opinion 
>> about this subject.
>> Sincerely yours
>> Reyhaneh Ebrahimi
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:13 PM Peter Blaha <peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at 
>> <mailto:peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:
>>
>>     Good to hear that this has been resolved.
>>
>>     PS: I just did a SnSe calc. and compared with the VASP paper.
>>     Similarly,
>>     very good agreement in the interstitial, while inside the atomic 
>> cores
>>     there is the expected difference between all-electron and
>>     pseudopotentials.
>>
>>     Am 03.11.2022 um 21:06 schrieb Kateryna Foyevtsova:
>>      > Dear Prof. Blaha,
>>      >
>>      > I think I know what's going on with ELF. Wien2k gets it
>>     correctly, but
>>      > Quantum Espresso has a bug which shows up in nspin=1
>>     calculations. In
>>      > the attached figure I compare the wien2k result with two QE
>>      > calculations: (1) one with nspin=1 switch and (2) one with nspin=2
>>      > switch. In both cases I am looking at the same non-magnetic 
>> solution
>>      > that has the same energy in the two QE calculations.
>>      >
>>      > Now you see that the difference between QE nspin=1 and nspin=2 is
>>      > dramatic whereas there should be none.
>>      >
>>      > The wien2k result looks very similar to the QE nspin=2 result 
>> in the
>>      > interstitial region at 0.5,0.5,0.0, marked with a big purple "X".
>>     There
>>      > are differences close to atomic nuclei but this is expected given
>>     that
>>      > we are comparing an all-electron and a pseudo-potenial code.
>>      >
>>      > Thank you very much for helping me resolve this issue.
>>      >
>>      > Best,
>>      > Kateryna
>>      >
>>      > On 2022-11-02 12:21, Peter Blaha wrote:
>>      >> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
>>      >>
>>      >> My result looks like the attached picture. I do get 0.8 in the 
>> core
>>      >> region of Ni, but not larger than that. It is probably similar 
>> than
>>      >> yours.
>>      >> I have no idea why it is different from QE, except maybe that 
>> these
>>      >> are pseudopotential calc.
>>      >>
>>      >> As I said before, you should compare other compounds, and also
>>     compare
>>      >> with literature ELF calculations.
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Am 01.11.2022 um 21:16 schrieb Kateryna Foyevtsova:
>>      >>> Dear Prof. Blaha,
>>      >>>
>>      >>> thank you for looking into this issue. I've tried the modified
>>      >>> create_rho.f and calculated the ELF of NdNiO2 again using
>>     create_elf.
>>      >>> I am getting a better agreement with QE, but it is not perfect
>>     as you
>>      >>> noted it too. My calculation was well converged and I used the
>>     same
>>      >>> k-grid and RKmax=7. The bandstructures from QE and wien2k agree
>>     very
>>      >>> well.
>>      >>>
>>      >>> I attach my comparison as a png file. I wonder whether you have
>>     any
>>      >>> idea about the possible reasons for the differences in ELF that
>>     the
>>      >>> two codes give? For example, at 0.5,0.5,0 the wien2k value is
>>     ~0.22
>>      >>> and the QE value is ~0.43.
>>      >>>
>>      >>> Thank you,
>>      >>> Kateryna
>>      >>>
>>      >>> On 2022-10-28 04:43, Peter Blaha wrote:
>>      >>>> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> Dear Kateryna ,
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> In fact, I found a big difference between     create_elf   and
>>      >>>> x lapw0 (with VX_ELF); x lapw5 -exchange
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> I traced it back to normalization errors in tau_w and tau_tf,
>>     which
>>      >>>> missed a factor of 2.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> The attached    create_rho.f  fixes the problem. It should be
>>     copied
>>      >>>> into SRC_trig; make
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> Then you can use    create_elf   again.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> PS: I would always compare the ELF created with both methods as
>>      >>>> indicated above. Depending on the numerics, one or the other
>>     method
>>      >>>> may give smoother plots, but in any case, they should be very
>>     similar.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> PPS: The agreement to QE-ELF seems reasonable (but not
>>     perfect), but
>>      >>>> I've not converged my calculations.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>> Thanks for the report
>>      >>>> Peter Blaha
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>>> I attach a pdf showing the differences. Also attached are my
>>     wien2k
>>      >>>>> >struct file and quantum espresso input file.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>>> Both calculations were done without spin polarization and
>>     using PBE.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>>> To me, the differences are big enough to question whether 
>> it is
>>      >>>>> >meaningful to use ELF at all if it depends on all-electron vs
>>      >>>>> >pseudopotential so strongly. Unless I am missing something or
>>      >>>>> doing >something wrong.
>>      >>>>
>>      >>>>> Thank you,
>>      >>>>> Kateryna
>>      >>>>
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