[Wien] calculation with lmbj potential
fabien.tran at vasp.at
fabien.tran at vasp.at
Thu Jul 27 09:54:28 CEST 2023
Hi,
In principle, mBJ can not be applied to systems with vacuum or an
interface (see section "Modified Becke-Johnson potential (mBJ) for band
gaps" in the user's guide). An alternative is to use lmBJ as you did,
but convergence was not possible. Another possibility is to use mBJ, but
by fixing the value of grad(rho)/rho to some (maybe arbitrary) value
(see explanations in the UG).
How bad is the convergence with PBE+nlvdw? Are you also trying to relax
the structure? Can you show the input files case.in0 and case.innlvdw?
On 26.07.2023 18:35, Burhan Ahmed wrote:
> I check the possible ways of converging my system.
>
> * The system converges with PBE+SO
> * The system converges with TB-mBJ+SO
>
> But
>
> * The system doesn’t converges lmBJ+SO
> * The system doesn’t converges with PBE+nlvdw
>
> It seems whenever I try to incorporate the van der waals interactions,
> the system becomes unstable.
>
> Karnel Type I choose is 1 and the rest default parameters are used.
>
> I am still searching for the possible solution. Hoping for suggestions
> from the experts.
>
> Regards
>
> Burhan Ahmed
>
> Research Scholar, AUS
>
> From: Laurence Marks
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 3:44 PM
> To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
> Subject: Re: [Wien] calculation with lmbj potential
>
> You should look at the BVS, i.e. "grep Bond *tnn" and compare it to
> what you have for bulk. You will see that you surface has bad values,
> so will be unstable. You need to do a lot more thinking and analysis
> (weeks) to find a chemically reasonable surface.
>
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>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 05:28 Peter Blaha <peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at>
> wrote:
>
> Yes, R cells are first converted into H (making it already 3 times
> larger than the primitive R cell).
>
> The "accepting repeat atoms at z=0" makes the non-stoichiometry. It
> leads to 2 identical surfaces and inversion symmetry (cheaper calc),
> but
> non-stoiciometry.
> It is not always clear what the best model for a surface is. Yours is
> Te
> terminated, but maybe another termination is more favorable (Bi, or
> maybe another Te-layer ?)
>
> Am 24.07.2023 um 10:51 schrieb Burhan Ahmed:
>> The 6ql slab is created with 1x1x2 supercell with vacuum in Z
> direction
>> and accepting repeat atoms at z=0 (using x supercell program). At
> first
>> the x supercell convert rhombohedral cell into hexagonal and then
> from
>> hexagonal cell I have created the 1x1x2 supercell and then I took
> the
>> structure suggested by sgroup.
>>
>> Yes sorry for that I have used MSR1a method for the relaxation.
>>
>> The force convergence is set to 1 Ry.
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Jul, 2023, 2:06 pm Peter Blaha, <peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at
>
>> <mailto:peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure how you get a non-stoichimetric cell with a
> multiplicative
>> number of unit cells, unless you said you want to repeat the
> atom at
>> z=0.
>> Of course, without this extra layer, you may not have inversion
> and get
>> 2 different surface terminations in one calculation. This is the
> usual
>> problem of slabs.
>> Also symmetry will be reduced and "multiplicity" errors occur.
> But
>> both,
>> nn and sgroup create new struct files where this has been
> corrected.
>>
>> If possible, I would also go to a smaller number of layers.
>>
>>
>> Am 24.07.2023 um 10:13 schrieb Burhan Ahmed:
>> > That is very true. I made the slab using the tutorial
> available
>> in the
>> > wien2k user manual by executing x-supercell program. What I
> found is
>> > that the 6ql supercell consist of an extra Te atom. But
> whenever
>> I try
>> > to remove this atom I got multiplicity error. Sir, what is
> best
>> possible
>> > way of making slab with vacuum or surfaces??
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Burhan Ahmed
>> >
>> > *Research Scholar, AUS *
>> >
>> > *From: *Laurence Marks <mailto:laurence.marks at gmail.com
>> <mailto:laurence.marks at gmail.com>>
>> > *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2023 6:30 PM
>> > *To: *A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
>> > <mailto:wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
>> <mailto:wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>
>> > *Subject: *Re: [Wien] calculation with lmbj potential
>> >
>> > Others will probably give you suggestions about converging
> mBJ. Some
>> > deeper comments.
>> >
>> > The most common reason that calculations behave badly is user
> error.
>> > Sometimes this is doing the initialization wrong, often it is
>> creating
>> > an inappropriate model. Just because one can use x supercell
> or
>> related
>> > codes to create atomic positions does /not/ make them
> sensible.
>> >
>> > Your slab has a composition Bi12 Te19, i.e. it is Te rich.
> You
>> therefore
>> > have a reduced, n-type semiconductor with a small gap (about
> 0.1eV)
>> > which will behave badly. If you look at your BVS you will see
>> that atom
>> > Te7 is severely underco-ordinated (unstable).
>> >
>> > I doubt that your slab will ever converge to anything which
>> should be
>> > published. Surfaces are not simple, it is unfortunately too
> easy
>> to set
>> > something up and get it wrong. (There are many papers in the
>> literature
>> > of dubious merit.)
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:47 PM Burhan Ahmed
>> <burhan.ahmed at aus.ac.in <mailto:burhan.ahmed at aus.ac.in>
>> > <mailto:burhan.ahmed at aus.ac.in
> <mailto:burhan.ahmed at aus.ac.in>>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear experts, I am doing an scf calculation taking lmbj
>> potential.
>> > My system is a slab of 6ql with a vacuum of 40 ang along
> c-axix.
>> > Whenever I try to run the scf calculation including SOC,
>> after 999
>> > iteration the scf is still not converged. I have analyzed
> the scf
>> > file, it shows the fluctuating nature. At first the
> selected
>> Rmt was
>> > 2.5 then I reduces it to 2.34 and again convergence
> failed
>> after 999
>> > cycle. I have included -hdlo and -lvns 8 switch in
> init_lapw
>> as it
>> > shows heavy atom. I am attaching the case.struct file.
> Hoping for
>> > any suggestion/solution.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Burhan Ahmed
>> >
>> > *Research Scholar, AUS *
>> >
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