[Wien] ABNiO_4

Peter Blaha peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at
Mon Mar 11 08:25:03 CET 2024


A structure optimization of a magnetic structure with several TM atoms 
may take many iterations.

You should probably start out with a normal

runsp -fc 2 -orb -p  -i 80   (it may not converge in 40 cycles ?).

Then inspect the forces. How large are they ? If they are larger than 5 
mRy/bohr, it is probably worth to optimize the structure and you restart 
the runsp command using  -min

After a couple of cycles investigate   :ENE and :FR
both quantities should go down slowly, but expect jumps, etc.
As I said before, it may take even a couple of 100 cycles in a bad case.


Am 11.03.2024 um 04:51 schrieb delamora:
> Dear WIEN2k community,
> I am working a
> ABNiO_4
> 
> where A and B share the same site, so I put A in two sites and B in the 
> other two sites. Since A and B have different sizes I have to minimize 
> the structure.
> ***nohup runsp -orb -min -fc 1 -p -NI &
> In this case I also see oscillations of the forces.
> Here are the forces of the last iteration;
> ----------------------------
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL001:   1.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     89.369305586 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL002:   2.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>   -253.427240886 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL003:   3.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     32.087849035 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL004:   4.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     99.761608403 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL005:   5.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>   -120.437642031 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL006:   6.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     23.840739934 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL007:   7.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -60.926691968 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL008:   8.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     22.195104724 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL009:   9.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     20.766471668 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL010:  10.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     -5.722578633 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL011:  11.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     14.621551816 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    153.431946551 total forces
> -----------------------------
> Here are the force of the atom 12 in iterations;
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -64.465764131 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -41.781609892 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -27.247532095 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     31.011050339 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     24.821461776 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     -7.745121027 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -12.782219090 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     24.338729371 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>     -3.622094674 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -13.464840283 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -44.338512354 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -43.360101483 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -42.603280808 total forces
> ABNiO4.scf::FGL012:  12.ATOM                 0.000000000     0.000000000 
>    -78.672058990 total forces
> ------------------------------
> As it can be seen the system the ninimization does not seems to work, 
> the forces oscilate.
> In this case, compared with the "Graphene + M" case, there are no Van 
> der Waals forces.
> 
> Saludos
> 
> Pablo
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De:* Wien <wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> en nombre de 
> Lyudmila Dobysheva via Wien <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
> *Enviado:* sábado, 9 de marzo de 2024 08:30 a. m.
> *Para:* wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at <wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>
> *Cc:* Lyudmila Dobysheva <lyuka17 at mail.ru>
> *Asunto:* Re: [Wien] Graphene + M
> 08.03.2024 21:26, delamora wrote:
>> I am trying to add atoms on top of graphene.
>> Since it is a weak bond I need to use Non Local Van der Waals functional
>> so I add Grafeno-M.innlvdw
>> and run
>> nohup run -p -nlvdw -NI &
>> and then
>> nohup run -p -nlvdw -NI -min -fc 1 &
>> What happens is that the forces start to increase, so I run
>> nohup run -p -nlvdw -NI &
>> and when I run
>> nohup run -p -nlvdw -NI -min -fc 1 &
>> the forces are small again, but they increase again, and so on.
> 
> It's not quite clear: forces start to increase and move the atom further
> from the atomic plain of carbon?
> What happens next? There should be a minimum force in the center between
> the planes and the second=third place close to the plane. Or the atom
> tends to enter the carbon plane?
> What is distance between the planes?
> Where is the starting position of the added atom?
> I'd start from usual calculation, without nlvdw. And then repeat with nlvdw.
> 
> Best wishes
> Lyudmila Dobysheva
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