[Wien] Inconsistency in kgen

Peter Blaha peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at
Fri Mar 22 09:36:50 CET 2024


In outputkgen the direct and reciprocal bravais matrices are printed.
They can be used to multiply the corresponding vectors (coordinates) and 
transfer them.
For instance for B (body-centered) lattices the Bravaismatrix is:
(-1 1 1
  1 -1 1
  1 1 -1 )   times the lattice constants a,b,c.

So the first primitive lattice vector (0,0,1) looks in kartesian 
coordinates as (-1,1,1) (always times a,b,c). Thus you can immediately 
"see", that this vector points "outside" the conventional "cube".

In essence, this is the reason why some coordinates in carthesian 
coordinates are outside the "cube" (outside (0 ... 1))

I guess, this is enough "geometry" and introduction ....

Am 22.03.2024 um 09:14 schrieb balabi via Wien:
> Dear Prof. Peter Blaha,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well.
> 
> I wanted to express my gratitude for your prompt reply. I truly 
> appreciate the time and effort you have taken to assist me with my query.
> 
> However, I apologize for any misunderstanding. While I do have a grasp 
> of the concepts surrounding internal and Cartesian coordinates as 
> mentioned in your previous email, the mention of the "common 
> denominator" is new to me.
> 
> Would it be possible for you to provide me with the formula for 
> transitioning from casename.klist to the internal coordinates within the 
> first reciprocal unit cell, as I had mentioned in my previous 
> correspondence? This information would greatly aid in clarifying my 
> understanding, particularly in relation to the following k points:
> 22     2      2     2    4   1.0
> and
> 64     6      6     6    4   1.0
> Knowing their corresponding internal coordinates would be immensely 
> helpful in resolving any confusion I may have.
> 
> Once again, I sincerely appreciate your assistance with this matter.
> 
> Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
> 
> best regards
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From: "A Mailing list for WIEN2k users" <peter.blaha at tuwien.ac.at>;
> Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2024 03:17 PM
> To: "wien"<wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at>;
> Subject: Re: [Wien] Inconsistency in kgen
> 
> 
> Come on !
> 
> You can specify coordinates in absolute units, or in fractions of the
> (reciprocal) lattice vectors.
> 
> E.g. an atom position can be given as (3.123,2.332,1.966) in units of
> Ang; or as (0.5,0.5,0.5) in units  of a,b, and c.
> 
> This is exactly what is done in outputkgen.
> 
> 0.00000   0.00000   0.25000             0.22411   0.22411   0.00000
> fractions of primitive rec.lattice       carthes. coord (bohr^-1)
> 
> 0.25000     0.25000     0.00000        2.00000      2.00000      0.00000
> fractional carth. coord            same as left, but multiplied by 8 to
>                                      find a common denominator.
> 
> 
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