[Wien] my membership to the mailing list gets disabled every 3 weeks
Peter Blaha
pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Mon Jan 30 17:40:02 CET 2017
After switching on the notification, I got 5 emails with bounce
information. 4 of them because of "user not known", i.e. the email does
not exist anymore and mailman should unsubscribe this mail after some time.
One concerns Laurence Marks with a strange "Autoreply" and the mail
contains:
AutoReply: Re: [Wien] my membership to the mailing list gets disabled
every 3weeks.eml
Betreff:
AutoReply: Re: [Wien] my membership to the mailing list gets disabled
every 3weeks
Von:
"李青坤" <liqingkun at hlju.edu.cn>
Datum:
30.01.2017 17:24
An:
L-marks at northwestern.edu
Am 30.01.2017 um 17:24 schrieb Laurence Marks:
> I have a suspicion what this is, and it is something that I am
> struggling with. Do any of the people who are experiencing this use
> .forward, or is there a .forward within the WIEN2k subscription checking
> structure?
>
> The problem may be related to what is called DMARC policy, which breaks
> the standard .forward structure. As an example of this, one of the
> emails in this thread (from Lyudmilla I think) did not reach me. The
> information I have is:
>
> "Remote Server returned '<gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
> <http://gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com> #5.7.1 SMTP; 550-5.7.1
> Unauthenticated email from mail.ru <http://mail.ru> is not accepted due
> to domain's>'"
>
> (The above is truncated by the server at Northwestern.) I can find this
> information at Northwestern's outlook webserver which I have configured
> to forward to my gmail account.
>
> My understanding is that when the email is forwarded by northwestern.edu
> <http://northwestern.edu> to my (main) gmail account, it is an address
> mail.ru <http://mail.ru> being sent by northwestern.edu
> <http://northwestern.edu>. Google checks with the DMARC policy of
> mail.run to see if northwestern is allowed to send a mail.run email.
> Since it is not, gmail rejects it.
>
> My understanding is that .forward is problematic, and on its way out --
> I have not heard of any way to repair/overcome this. If anyone does,
> please let me know (although it is far from the topic of the list).
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Fabiana Da Pieve
> <fabiana.dapieve at gmail.com <mailto:fabiana.dapieve at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear Prof. Blaha
>
> I have checked my spam inbox and no, none of the email that my gmail
> account automatically archived as spam was coming from Wien2k, in
> THIS last period.
>
> However, in the past sometimes it has happened , that's true, that I
> have found some emails from Wien2k in the spam box (one, or two over
> more than one hundred spam email).
> But considering that I am lazy in empting my spam inbox, those
> one/two emails over more than one hundred were corresponding to a
> period that was spanning more than 3 weeks.
>
> So, strange that 5 or 10 bounces are generated in a period of 3
> weeks (which is the frequency with which I have to renew the
> membership).
>
> In any case, the problem is not only detected by those who have a
> gmail account (lyudmila has mail.ru
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mail.ru&d=CwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=U_T4PL6jwANfAy4rnxTj8IUxm818jnvqKFdqWLwmqg0&m=DRJXGa8aJUZMjPZlHvMImdcRvCzSJceg5-cxviQ9e5k&s=soIag9ol_uWKwbp2vGj5YvPfAn4aCEN9KnJdavDNvvk&e=>)
>
> Thanks for your attention
> Fabiana
>
>
>
> 2017-01-30 16:49 GMT+01:00 Luis Ogando <lcodacal at gmail.com
> <mailto:lcodacal at gmail.com>>:
>
> Dear Prof. Blaha,
>
> Unfortunately, I am facing the same problem described by Dr.
> Fabiana Da Pieve.
> Please, let me know if I can do anything to help.
> All the best,
> Luis
>
>
> 2017-01-30 13:34 GMT-02:00 Peter Blaha
> <pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
> <mailto:pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at>>:
>
> I've nothing changed recently in the mailing list
> configuration, so I don't know why this should now happen
> (except when your mail system has changed e.g
> spam-processing, ...)
>
> It probably comes from bounce processing, i.e. mailman
> cannot send to your email addresses and gets a bounce back.
> After 5 (or 10 days if it is a soft bounce) it will disable
> your membership and just before, it will send you a warning.
>
> It may have to do with your specific email accounts ? maybe
> they think it is spam ... ?
>
> Of course, I can increase the bounce level from 5 (up to
> 10), but for sure I want to keep it, otherwise mailman will
> keep outdated addresses forever and continues to send mails
> to them.
>
> Regards
>
> Am 30.01.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Fabiana Da Pieve:
>
> Dear Wien2k developers
>
> I am a pretty silent user of Wien2k since many years and
> I always read
> with pleasure the emails of the different users, which
> sometimes are
> also useful for me.
>
> However, in the last period I get very often (every 3
> weeks) an email to
> confirm my membership to the mailing list, and if I do
> not do it soon my
> membership is cancelled the very same day.
>
> I do not think this is normal. Or is it ?
> In any case, before it was not the case. Is there
> something I can do to
> avoid this ?
>
> Thank you very much for your attention
> Fabiana Da Pieve
>
>
>
>
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